Why We Should All Fear Government

keycocker · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598

Not exactly. The welfare folks we know are not liberals. They have no politics at all, like most poor people.
They don't seem to know the difference..
I remember one active conservative black guy.
Well educated guy with too many kids to support without help.

One of the least well informed things you hear is the idea that Obama is buying votes with welfare.
Welfare folks rarely vote.
Our tenants received 8 years of welfare from Bush and the GOP before Obama.
Didn't vote then, dont vote now, except the one guy who was a Bushie.

When you hear someone say "liberals with their hand out for a check" you are listening to a person whose fortunate life did not include much real contact with the poor on welfare.

techno900 · Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161

"Leave NO soldier behind".....

I think most agree with the pledge, but I wonder if the administration or the military had been working on finding a way to bring Bergdahl home, or had he been written off and the Taliban initiated the trade deal. I really don't know and maybe this piece of info. is out there somewhere.

Just wondering.

mac · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject:

Techno--of course we will never know the answer. But the Republicans would not talk to the Taliban, or give Obama credit for anything. From the other thread that is endlessly bashing Obama, whatever the facts:

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

You know, what's not being talked about is the 5 Guantanamo detainees in the context of winding down Guantanamo. How were we going to deal with these guys into the future? If the truth be told, the military probably didn't have enough hard evidence to successfully prosecute the cases against these guys.

Finally, we have a way to let these detainees go in exchange for our soldier. Not necessarily a bad deal for all the concerned parties. No big surprise that the Republicans aren't going there. They'll criticize President Obama for not closing Guantanamo, but what would they do? If Vice President Cheney couldn't close the deal on these dangerous characters during the Bush Administration, who could?

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

nw30 · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:28 pm Post subject:

[quote="swchandler"]You know, what's not being talked about is the 5 Guantanamo detainees in the context of winding down Guantanamo. How were we going to deal with these guys into the future? If the truth be told, the military probably didn't have enough hard evidence to successfully prosecute the cases against these guys.

Finally, we have a way to let these detainees go in exchange for our soldier. quote]

5 top ranking detainees.

Finally? If I remember correctly we had about 140 detainees at Gitmo before the top 5 were traded, so that's going to require some more kidnapping to be able to use this method for emptying out Gitmo.
But hea, "finally we have a way".

By the way, North Korea is paying close attention to this.
They got some also.

http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-says-investigating-american-illegal-acts-kcna-032330467.html;_ylt=AwrBJR637ZFT0nQAag_QtDMD

keycocker · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598

If we go to war with North Korea they are going to want to swap prisoners afterward all right.
We have swapped prisoners in every single war in American history so they will probably be able to make a deal.
It is only a crime if Obama does it.
Doesn't matter how much the GOP was down on his for not doing it before.
How do these sleep at night ?

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

I wonder how many lefties understand that it wasn't just Lois Lerner's hard drive that was eaten by her dog; no less than EIGHT HDs -- all belonging to the IRS employees suspected of collusion with her --were eaten by IRS dogs.

Then there's the little question of what that has to do with rendering emails unrecoverable from all the other places they inhabit. When I retire a computer, remove and destroy its HD, give the box to Best Buy to recycle its plastic and metal parts, and buy and fire up a new computer ... right there are all zillion of the emails I've sent and received over the past few years.

I guess some people don't object to being lied to about its own government targeting citizens and using its strongest, most frightening, most belligerent domestic force to swing a presidential election. Anything to win, huh, guys?

pueno · Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807