Racism and America

GURGLETROUSERS · Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 2643

Come on Pointster, 'the Holocaust, the slaying of six million Jews, was perpetuated by CHRISTIANS, not muslims' , is a gross misrepresentation of reality.

The fact that Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels were nominally Christians and therefore acting according to the teachings of Christ, cannot be taken seriously. I take it you are well read in the subject, i.e. Goebbels many statements on the nature of propaganda and power, Hitlers Mein Kampf, and Shirer (a fellow American) The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich) and that you can see the true nature of the 'Nazi quest'?

To lay all that at the feet of Christ and his New Testament teachings (which TRANSCENDS the Old Testament) is disingenuous, and a very dangerous misinterpretation of the nature of fanaticism, and where it can lead. (Death and destruction on a collosal scale.)

keycocker · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598

GT is right. The Nazis and others were not really Christians no matter how much pious BS they spouted.
Neither is IS an Islamic State according to the scholars of Islam.
Neither is Al Quada. Just more guys like the Nazis.
Muslims don't buy it, but Gybe does.
Gybe,
My experience with Islam comes from actually asking muslims about this.
In your isolated little office you missed the post about the world where I live.
I have had the crap beat out of me by both the Palestinians and the Israeli Army.
Last time I spoke to a Muslim was about a week ago,how bout you?

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

techno900 · Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161

keycocker said:

mrgybe · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180

mrgybe · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180

GT.........well said.

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

What about the Spanish and other Christian Inquisitions? What do you think that the Jews or Muslims thought about the unyielding Christian fervor in the name of God? The idea that Christians haven't been exceedingly brutal in practicing their religion doesn't float.

pointster · Joined: 22 Jul 2010 Posts: 376

keycocker · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598

So these Muslim friends of yours agree that IS is a a wholly religious pursuit among devoted Islamic believers.
They are nearly alone in that view.
That goes contrary to the Imams.
My friends disagree, and agree with Islamic leaders that IS does not practice Islam.
Another group weighing in against you, Gybe, is Al Quada. They have denounced IS as not practicing Islam, and murdering civilians against the Koran.
Naive of you to form your own view that is contrary to those who actually understand Islam and jihad.
I see you have returned to inserting a snarky remark with most posts.
It is your personal style. Makes you look bad here.

mac · Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:08 pm Post subject:

Ah, but he has so much more experience than you, and he doesn't have to explain anything. Particularly when he says something like seizing land in Ireland has nothing to do with the troubles in the Middle East. He was there.