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w8n4wind



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:35 am    Post subject: sidebites ? Reply with quote

sidebites..what are they supposed to do, and feel like compared to a single fin?
i just used my new board with sidebites for the first time yesterday, its the same as my old board, but has the side bites.
all i could tell is the ride in rough stuff felt smoother..maybe.
but jibing or on the wave it felt draggier., and seemingly more prone to long drawn out spin outs,which were harder to correct from.
so, what are sidebites supposed to do?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the board ?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its an exocet curve 11'5'', the old board is the kona 11'5'', so essentially the same board. yesterday was the first time ive used a board with the side bites since about '87..ish.
so again, just wondering what the advantages of using sidebites are supposed to be.?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More upwind bite.
Able to use shorter main fin, for shallow water and reefs.
Slow down response a touch, good for some, not good for others.
Allows a pivot point, when coupled with smaller main fins, to break the straight line direction into a sharper, quicker turn.
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that the same ona short board, in that it grip, and go upwind better, the fins being shorter would enable sailing in shallower H2O

but then I don't do SUPs

http://www.hotsailsmaui.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3587

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Multi fins for shallow water navigation,, yes that would be an advantage. I could sail at low tide.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pro's:

able to stay attached in more jagged, fast breaking waves

provides a softer turning response at slower speeds

con's:

lower top end speeds

confused center of effort for max lift for upwind planing power

higher planing thresholds

less pumping ability

usefulness in my typical mushy, onshore surf: nearly zero

they certainly do bling, but they don't add to my liking of the 11'5.

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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

many of the cons, can be somewhat overcome,, by using asymmetrical fins and some toe in on the boxes

some of the fins I have seen on SUPs are crude.

I see that pumping on a plane is useful.. but have never considered it something I need or not need

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U2U2U2 wrote:
I see that pumping on a plane is useful.. but have never considered it something I need or not need


In most cases I would agree with that. But in getting out of the impact zone in onshore or side shore I find pumping goes beyond "need" to save both body & equipment. Laughing

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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well in that case its not pumping to get on a plane is it ?

its to escape the surf.
Most cases

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