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Thurston



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that sounds like a good move to me too. I'm looking for rigs now, if you all have any suggestions or see a good used rig that I could carry over to a new board, let me know.

I really appreciate all the helpful posts, you guys are awesome.
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Thurston



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a sail nearby on Craigslist. The brand is UP, it's a 5.9 (regular mast diameter) in like new cond for $90. I've never heard of UP; is this a decent sail to build my rig around?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think UP went out of business in the '90s, so the sail is pretty old. I wouldn't pay more than $40 for it unless it includes additional rig components like a mast, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thurston wrote:
I've never heard of UP; is this a decent sail to build my rig around?


No. A sail that old will not rig well unless you get a similar vintage mast (and in those days gear released the same year sometimes didn't work together.) You'll be painting yourself into a poorly chosen corner from the outset.

Keep all your rig purchases post-2000. You should be able to find an affordable sail that's (only) ten years old. Compatibility between various windsurfing equipment is much much better in the 21st century. Good luck!

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Thurston



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I might have found a used mast, extension and base that I could use with an adapter plate in my old longboard.

7 year old chinook base and 10 inch extension
Fiberspar ST3200 (460cm) 1 year old in great shape

Is this size mast ok for me? Will it support sail sizes that make sense for me? Any potential issues?

To recap, I'm about 180 lbs, will be out in winds 5 -20 kts (mostly 7 - 15 to start, at least) beginner with some experience looking to progress on an old long board.
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PeconicPuffin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! The 460 mast will rig sails (depending on their vintage) from mid 6's to mid 8's. At 180lbs you will be on sails this size most of the time in those wind strengths.

Take care of the mast and it will last you a long time.

Thurston wrote:
OK, I might have found a used mast, extension and base that I could use with an adapter plate in my old longboard.

7 year old chinook base and 10 inch extension
Fiberspar ST3200 (460cm) 1 year old in great shape

Is this size mast ok for me? Will it support sail sizes that make sense for me? Any potential issues?

To recap, I'm about 180 lbs, will be out in winds 5 -20 kts (mostly 7 - 15 to start, at least) beginner with some experience looking to progress on an old long board.

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Thurston



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'm taking your advice and going with the mast.

I've also found a sail, extension and base that I'm close to closing a deal on and put one of the Mistral adapter blocks on order! Very Happy

I'm planning on using my own boom. It's aluminum and in good shape other than the grip is missing on one side, and barely hanging on on the other side.

What is a good material to use to replace the grips?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"What is a good material to use to replace the grips?"


http://www.isthmussailboards.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CH230


The following video will give you an idea how to do the job.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekIYW-86e80
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Thurston



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you done this? I watched the video and also the update videos. One thing I don't understand is how he determines the angle to cut in the beginning.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to admit that I've never re-gripped a boom. It's the kind of job that I pay others to do. In the last year or so, Derek at Delta Windsurf did my Maui Sails boom. The price wasn't real cheap, but I'm quite happy overall, both with the cost and the outcome.

From what I understand, your first cut is to create a 45 degree angle along the entire edge of the grip material. That way when you finish attaching the grip material to the boom and then over the original 45 degree cut surface of the material, you know exactly where to trim the excess off. Of course, practice makes perfect, but from what I understand it's not that difficult to achieve a decent outcome.
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