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dhmark



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Want super smooth chop absorbing 90-100 liter board Reply with quote

I'm wanting to ease the stress on my body in sailing medium-high wind choppy conditions in Great Lakes, and want a smooth nonbouncy ride above all else. My fading memories recall smooth riding on my brother's custom Open Ocean in the gorge (amazing), and the old original Mistral Screamer as the smoothest boards I have ever sailed. I have a larger Fanatic Cross 120 from 2001 that is great for lower winds. Any production boards on the market that fill this bill? dhmark
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Want super smooth chop absorbing 90-100 liter board Reply with quote

dhmark wrote:
I'm wanting to ease the stress on my body in sailing medium-high wind choppy conditions in Great Lakes, and want a smooth nonbouncy ride above all else. My fading memories recall smooth riding on my brother's custom Open Ocean in the gorge (amazing), and the old original Mistral Screamer as the smoothest boards I have ever sailed. I have a larger Fanatic Cross 120 from 2001 that is great for lower winds. Any production boards on the market that fill this bill? dhmark


For just blasting, I tried an 05 Tabou Rocket yesterday and thought "WOW this is really nice on the knees compared to my HiFly".
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adywind



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most modern FSW and Freeride boards will fit your bill. You can also check out the new Freemove boards we are discussing on another tread. I've tried the 120 lt RRD FSW and the110 lt Firemove and liked them both - very smooth ride and great chop handling.
I own a 2007 JP FSW 93lt and it is very bouncy ride in comparisson .


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noshuzbluz



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get a new OO for cheaper than any production board I know of. Check out the new site!
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cruzanboard



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sought the same thing (knees dont like the chop as much after an hour). On both my small and mid-sized board I looked for longer narrower models. I think they cut through the chop better than some of the short-fat board designs. It does sacrifice some on early plain. That being said, I went with the following, relatively narrower used boards.
JP- FWS, 96L
Tabu Rocket, 105L
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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruzanboard wrote:
I have sought the same thing (knees dont like the chop as much after an hour). On both my small and mid-sized board I looked for longer narrower models. I think they cut through the chop better than some of the short-fat board designs. It does sacrifice some on early plain. That being said, I went with the following, relatively narrower used boards.
JP-FSW

I agreed right up to the last word. JP has for many years emphasized speed at the expense of ride quality, despite at least one big dealer that I know of asking them to improve the ride even if it required detuning the speed.

I'm also a big fan of narrower boards, but their superior ride is just one of their advantages I enjoy. Some wider ones ride as well, but at other expenses. There are just SO many parameters to work with. Heck, just adding extra pads at the straps smoothes out a rough ride very noticeably. And most boards ride just fine if the rider rigs small and just barely planes.

Considering how important any one parameter -- ride, in this case -- is to you guys, I would strongly suggest either of two approaches: a) buy something inexpensive in case you don't like it or b) find SOME way to try any new (i.e., expensive) board out first. You can very seldom go by brand alone, whether it's OO or Mistral or any other brand; most sources offer too many varieties for that.
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noshuzbluz



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
cruzanboard wrote:
I have sought the same thing (knees dont like the chop as much after an hour). On both my small and mid-sized board I looked for longer narrower models. I think they cut through the chop better than some of the short-fat board designs. It does sacrifice some on early plain. That being said, I went with the following, relatively narrower used boards.
JP-FSW

I'm also a big fan of narrower boards, but their superior ride is just one of their advantages I enjoy.
Considering how important any one parameter -- ride, in this case -- is to you guys,


These topics are about two of the most watched videos Brian as made on the new website. Outline and Volume. If you're in rough water and consistently getting beat up, that's the way to get control.

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adywind



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the latest tendencies towards flatter rocker , more compact outlines, puting more of the volume under the straps area /which makes the nose ride high/ and the wide spread use of double concave vees seems to help a lot in smoothing things out.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But put all that on a narrower board for an even better ride. Every(good)thing is a tradeoff.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

noshuzbluz wrote:
Outline and Volume. If you're in rough water and consistently getting beat up, that's the way to get control.

And vee. And slower speeds. And softer rails. And narrower hulls. And narrow, thin tails. And a dozen other tweaks in every aspect of a board's shape. As speed increases on chop, control gets ever harder to maintain. Rockered-out wave boards, for example, are easy to control, largely because they're made slow so they won't outrun the wave.

And all that's even before one considers the fin.
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