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Is our country becoming a 3rd world nation?
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it is the natural tendency for large organizations to become corrupt. The Vatican down to local school boards and everything in between. Let's face it, most successful people got there through greed or desire for political power.

Most high net worth guys I know are miserable, however my gardener is as happy as a guy could be. Does this mean we don't need rich guys? No, we need them badly.

Size of Govt? The size has doubled since 1999. We were doing pretty well back then. Both Bush and O have stolen from our childrens futures, and this printing money thing is a hidden tax on the poor. He just didn't raise their rates. The wealthy have their money growing at 12% in the market, while the poor have had negative income growth.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Define "greed".

Do Gates, Buffett, Marcus, Branson, Leno, etc. seem miserable?
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greed and lust for power are not things that make people happy. I don't know about those guys, I do know about many of the powerful guys who live around me. And universally, their gardeners are happier people.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you're dodging the question, "What is greed?"
One TR host has asked his national audience that question for decades without one valid answer yet. It's not a riddle; it's a serious question, considering how often and how critically it is used.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some rich guys too and none of them are as satisfied and content as a guy I know who sleeps on the street in Mumbai.
When folks in Mexico talk about the "good years" in the US they mean the same time before 1999 you mentioned.
In Thailand they insist on men spending a time, often a year, as monks who have nothing and beg food each day. Even the king and his advisors and playboy son spent some time in orange robes. It is intended to teach you that an actual good life is hard to purchase.
Very few people die wishing they had spent more time at the office.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, like ripping through the Maui mountains in a little hot rod!
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GURGLETROUSERS



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greed? ..... Solomon had it all, but was wise enough to understand, and lament.

'Vanity of vanities; all is vanity.'
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Works for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Greed and lust for power are not things that make people happy. I don't know about those guys, I do know about many of the powerful guys who live around me. And universally, their gardeners are happier people.

Truer words have not been spoken. Guys I work with print money, and they are all miserable. When I walk out of the office to hit the water at 2, they all look at me like I'm a freak, and I just smile thinking of 30kts, Logo high.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pueno wrote:
beaglebuddy wrote:

My mother was an immigrant, a LEGAL immigrant.
Losing an argument? just cry RACIST!

You completely missed his point.
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This is NOT a shocking development.
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