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New Leak Discovered @ Hanford
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ImmigrantJesus



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:02 pm    Post subject: Hanford Leaks Reply with quote

You gotta love this quote, "“This is very disturbing news. I am alarmed about this on many levels . . . Washington state has a zero tolerance policy on radioactive leaks,” Gov. Jay Inslee told a news conference in Olympia.

Yes, he is the Governor and clueless as to what is going on at Hanford...

Good thing they created a "policy" - that will get those leaks to stop - maybe nobody told the leaks... that must be it! Laughing
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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you guys had any concept of how complex and challenging Hanford's waste problem is and how hard they're looking for leaks, you'd realize this thread's topic sentence is about as alarming as, "There are imperfections somewhere in the known universe."

The leak problem will never be solvable or solved until all these things occur:
1. The DOE is eliminated. It is a bloated and ego-driven bureaucracy, not a problem-solving agency.

2. They stop looking for leaks and stop sending canaries (aka people) into the tank area. Then in the government paradigm, by definition, leaks will no longer exist because no workers are incurring new health problems.

3. Hell freezes over.

Fortunately for us WSers, Hanford is not a threat. By the time its problems become our problem on any measurable scale, the whole planet will have melted (or frozen, whichever comes first) so our sails will be either too soft or too brittle for use.

Besides, the swell at Hanford absolutely sucks. It's only 20 miles away yet we don't even bother sailing there.
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shreddbob



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
If you guys had any concept of how complex and challenging Hanford's waste problem is and how hard they're looking for leaks, you'd realize this thread's topic sentence is about as alarming as, "There are imperfections somewhere in the known universe."


After listening to this excellent analysis (IMHO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bVUfGQMK50
I now realize the immense complexity of the Hanford issue. Add it to the list of bad things we've done and are doing to this planet.

Quote from Robert Alvarez: [Hanford] is now being treated almost as a relatively obscure sideshow, whereas it should be treated as a project of national importance with a great deal of attention.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we hadn't had "Hanford", those of us still alive would be speaking German now. I prefer some localized pollution.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:07 pm    Post subject: A little histrory Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
If we hadn't had "Hanford", those of us still alive would be speaking German now. I prefer some localized pollution.


Date Germany Surrenders WW2: 5/7/1945
First Atom Bomb Dropped (Hiroshima): 8/6/1945
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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But had they beat us to the technology, they would not have have surrendered. German, Russian, Japanese, Italian ... whatever our language might have become, I want no part of it if it involves communism or socialism. Whether it was arrogance, ignorance, or expediency that played the larger role in the Hanford aftermath, IF that's what it took to win that war, it was a pretty small price to pay. We could list dozens of more urgent problems than the Hanford tanks, many of them even on a local scale.

The solution is not in zero tolerance whining; it is in putting a less bureaucratic agency -- one that understands project management (the DOD comes to mind) -- in charge of cleaning it up. Write to your congressman if it bothers you that much. Complaining here -- or anywhere about zero tolerance -- achieves absolutely nothing. I've known high-level expert project managers who have worked for both the DOD and the DOE, and the comparison would be laughable if so much weren't at stake.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here's the latest news on this thread, straight from the guys and gals in hazmat suits at the site: "Never mind".

The detected radiation deemed by alarmists as a "new leak" is at the same level as and is the result of the same residual radioactive crap left between the tank's double walls when the stupid tank was young decades ago. It has been and is being monitored and studied by a myriad of instruments and tests.

Sheesh. Just as with global warming alarmism, police shooting outrage, and rumors of Trump's podiacide, ya gotta wait for the facts.
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