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Riptide



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2013/02/04/unexpected-opposition-from-environmentalists-to-bay-trail/
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windoggie



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

victor wrote:
sierra club environazis

Could you give me some examples for why you consider them nazis? Maybe overzealous sometimes, but nazis?

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victor



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i edited my post so as not to offend your sensibilities, windoggie.

they could at least stop spreading misinformation to carry out their agenda
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

victor wrote:
i edited my post so as not to offend your sensibilities, windoggie.

they could at least stop spreading misinformation to carry out their agenda


Like the out and out lies propagated by them via the Pt. Reyes National Seashore and the Park Service that helped shut down Drakes Bay Oyster Co.

Sierra Club is definitely not welcome at my house.

Steve
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we need to be a little more careful in who we like and hate, and why. The Sierra Club representation varies, a lot, by chapter, and it is a volunteer organization with no protocol to have club members vote before individuals take positions. I have never belonged to the club for exactly that reason; there is no process to ensure a coherent position. For the east Bay, their positions are driven mostly by one individual, and I consider it a step in my personal maturation to not have punched that individual, who is behind the Albany lawsuit, after one of his particularly nasty insults. He has opposed all forms of public access, and fought them all. But the Sierra Club was a significant contributor in the fight against new runways that would have wiped out Coyote Point sailing, and is helpful on a number of issues. In this case they are wrong, and we can prevail on the substance. What I'm about is having the votes and arguments so we can protect and improve public access.
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