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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
JPB--do we need to close your school too? The word you were searching for was "belief". That was not a typo, that was, at best, careless misuse.

In fact, I have spent 13 years volunteering in my community schools--while Republicans have cut school funding in every place they have been in power. It is because poorly educated fools react to things like talk radio without bothering to check facts. Or they make fake claims about me doing research--without bothering to do any themselves. Of course the meme that schools are overrun by immigrants that don't speak English is one of the justifications you guys use to hate immigrants and cut funding for schools. There was nothing true about Matty's post--as usual.

You and NW are pathetic. What a sad existence to take joy in trying to piss me off--instead of actually having an interest in knowing something. How sad.



Late sign of dementia .....SADNESS. Poor old Mac thinks my post was completely false, while maybe a stretch of the truth, it is based on reality.

Our public school classrooms are overcrowded...true. Many students do not speak English and it is a huge financial burden on most school systems... true. Political correctness and gender identity are running ramped in our schools and it's based on dumb ideas and has reach an unthinkable level of foolishness....true. Kids are being brain washed in many ways by liberal teacher about the wrongs of America and free speech and intellectual diversity is being SHAMEFULLY silenced by the left....true.

But if you're of the mindset of a freak like Mac you may not be concerned with these issues, thankfully many are.


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nw30



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are a liberal, you have to claim anything to avoid school vouchers, aka school choice. Simple as that.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you guys ever thought about all the foreign immigrants that came to America over the years that have been educated and folded successfully into American life? Its never been an impossible task that we couldn't achieve and prosper from as a nation.

NW30, the school choice and voucher movement coming from the right has nothing to do with freedom. Parents have always been free to send their kids to private schools of their choice instead of public schools, they just had to pay the full tuition themselves. I don't know about you, but I have a problem sending my tax dollars to private schools, and particularly religious organizations. To get a clearer picture why many Americans feel as I do, I would suggest that you brush up on the US Constitution and what it says about the separation between church and state.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, the Trump defense. You should have known it was hyperbole not lying.

Matty claims:

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Late sign of dementia .....SADNESS. Poor old thinks my post was completely false, while maybe a stretch of the truth, it is based on reality.

Our public school classrooms are overcrowded...true. Many students do not speak English and it is a huge financial burden on most school systems... true. Political correctness and gender identity are running ramped in our schools and it's based on dumb ideas and has reach an unthinkable level of foolishness....true. Kids are being brain washed in many ways by liberal teacher about the wrongs of America and free speech and intellectual diversity is being SHAMEFULLY silenced by the left....true.

But if you're of the mindset of a freak like Mac you may not be concerned with these issues, thankfully many are.


Matty still can't string together a coherent sentence {has reached might be correct usage.} Typical of his kind of screed is there is not a fact to be found. Matty--how long has it been since you've been in a school? How many were you kicked out of?

I am helping out teaching English and reading to three kids this year. Two from Yemen and one from Nepal. It is interesting and challenging. Kids who started reading in Arabic come from a different alphabet and read right to left--even if they had substantial education in English before they came to America. All the research shows that kids are wide open to new languages in their first 10 years, and that kids who are bilingual do better in school overall and particularly in math. Brains have to be trained--you might try it. Most of my work is with the fundamentals of making sure that they understand vowel sounds, and why they change, and building vocabulary.

In 13 year, the only time I have talked about politics was with a 4th grade girl--smarter than Trump or Matty--who was broken hearted after Trump's election. She'll exceed us all in accomplishments. And she will be smart enough to know fake news when she reads it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
Have you guys ever thought about all the foreign immigrants that came to America over the years that have been educated and folded successfully into American life? Its never been an impossible task that we couldn't achieve and prosper from as a nation.

NW30, the school choice and voucher movement coming from the right has nothing to do with freedom. Parents have always been free to send their kids to private schools of their choice instead of public schools, they just had to pay the full tuition themselves. I don't know about you, but I have a problem sending my tax dollars to private schools, and particularly religious organizations. To get a clearer picture why many Americans feel as I do, I would suggest that you brush up on the US Constitution and what it says about the separation between church and state.

This is one of the most self-contradictory things I've ever read of yours.
Freedom, is freedom of choice.
Private schools does not mean only religious schools, but "parochial" schools does. Also most parochial schools are funded by their churches. Maybe you should brush up on your definitations, and quit being so fearful.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
mac wrote:
JPB--do we need to close your school too? The word you were searching for was "belief". That was not a typo, that was, at best, careless misuse.

In fact, I have spent 13 years volunteering in my community schools--while Republicans have cut school funding in every place they have been in power. It is because poorly educated fools react to things like talk radio without bothering to check facts. Or they make fake claims about me doing research--without bothering to do any themselves. Of course the meme that schools are overrun by immigrants that don't speak English is one of the justifications you guys use to hate immigrants and cut funding for schools. There was nothing true about Matty's post--as usual.

You and NW are pathetic. What a sad existence to take joy in trying to piss me off--instead of actually having an interest in knowing something. How sad.



Late sign of dementia .....SADNESS. Poor old Mac thinks my post was completely false, while maybe a stretch of the truth, it is based on reality.

Our public school classrooms are overcrowded...true. Many students do not speak English and it is a huge financial burden on most school systems... true. Political correctness and gender identity are running ramped in our schools and it's based on dumb ideas and has reach an unthinkable level of foolishness....true. Kids are being brain washed in many ways by liberal teacher about the wrongs of America and free speech and intellectual diversity is being SHAMEFULLY silenced by the left....true.

But if you're of the mindset of a freak like Mac you may not be concerned with these issues, thankfully many are.


Quite convincing matty...Your post is the best evidence here that our school systems need improvement. Well done!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
swchandler wrote:
Have you guys ever thought about all the foreign immigrants that came to America over the years that have been educated and folded successfully into American life? Its never been an impossible task that we couldn't achieve and prosper from as a nation.

NW30, the school choice and voucher movement coming from the right has nothing to do with freedom. Parents have always been free to send their kids to private schools of their choice instead of public schools, they just had to pay the full tuition themselves. I don't know about you, but I have a problem sending my tax dollars to private schools, and particularly religious organizations. To get a clearer picture why many Americans feel as I do, I would suggest that you brush up on the US Constitution and what it says about the separation between church and state.

This is one of the most self-contradictory things I've ever read of yours.
Freedom, is freedom of choice.
Private schools does not mean only religious schools, but "parochial" schools does. Also most parochial schools are funded by their churches. Maybe you should brush up on your definitations, and quit being so fearful.

NW...whats a "definitation"? Is it a combination of definite, and connotation?
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW30, I think that you are under the false illusion that freedom is free.

You know, I never had children, but I still paid federal and state taxes supporting public education. For those that have children also pay taxes to support public schools whether or not they elect to send their children to public schools.

Again, folks are free to choose a private or religious school for their children's education, but they should have to pay the full tuition. A private school choice comes at extra cost, and that's appropriate. They should not have the choice to forego tax support for a public education so that they can weasel government financial support to fund a private education.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Ah, the Trump defense. You should have known it was hyperbole not lying.

Matty claims:

Quote:
Late sign of dementia .....SADNESS. Poor old thinks my post was completely false, while maybe a stretch of the truth, it is based on reality.

Our public school classrooms are overcrowded...true. Many students do not speak English and it is a huge financial burden on most school systems... true. Political correctness and gender identity are running ramped in our schools and it's based on dumb ideas and has reach an unthinkable level of foolishness....true. Kids are being brain washed in many ways by liberal teacher about the wrongs of America and free speech and intellectual diversity is being SHAMEFULLY silenced by the left....true.

But if you're of the mindset of a freak like Mac you may not be concerned with these issues, thankfully many are.


Matty still can't string together a coherent sentence {has reached might be correct usage.} Typical of his kind of screed is there is not a fact to be found. Matty--how long has it been since you've been in a school? How many were you kicked out of?

I am helping out teaching English and reading to three kids this year. Two from Yemen and one from Nepal. It is interesting and challenging. Kids who started reading in Arabic come from a different alphabet and read right to left--even if they had substantial education in English before they came to America. All the research shows that kids are wide open to new languages in their first 10 years, and that kids who are bilingual do better in school overall and particularly in math. Brains have to be trained--you might try it. Most of my work is with the fundamentals of making sure that they understand vowel sounds, and why they change, and building vocabulary.

In 13 year, the only time I have talked about politics was with a 4th grade girl--smarter than Trump or Matty--who was broken hearted after Trump's election. She'll exceed us all in accomplishments. And she will be smart enough to know fake news when she reads it.



In 13 year??????????????????? nitwit
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
mac wrote:
JPB--do we need to close your school too? The word you were searching for was "belief". That was not a typo, that was, at best, careless misuse.

In fact, I have spent 13 years volunteering in my community schools--while Republicans have cut school funding in every place they have been in power. It is because poorly educated fools react to things like talk radio without bothering to check facts. Or they make fake claims about me doing research--without bothering to do any themselves. Of course the meme that schools are overrun by immigrants that don't speak English is one of the justifications you guys use to hate immigrants and cut funding for schools. There was nothing true about Matty's post--as usual.

You and NW are pathetic. What a sad existence to take joy in trying to piss me off--instead of actually having an interest in knowing something. How sad.



Late sign of dementia .....SADNESS. Poor old Mac thinks my post was completely false, while maybe a stretch of the truth, it is based on reality.

Our public school classrooms are overcrowded...true. Many students do not speak English and it is a huge financial burden on most school systems... true. Political correctness and gender identity are running ramped in our schools and it's based on dumb ideas and has reach an unthinkable level of foolishness....true. Kids are being brain washed in many ways by liberal teacher about the wrongs of America and free speech and intellectual diversity is being SHAMEFULLY silenced by the left....true.

But if you're of the mindset of a freak like Mac you may not be concerned with these issues, thankfully many are.


Quite convincing matty...Your post is the best evidence here that our school systems need improvement. Well done!!!



Boggs do you use KY or Vaseline to fit your head up your ass? Let me guess, your kids go to private schools so they don't have to deal with the problems with public schools.
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