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mac
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| nw30 wrote: | | mac wrote: | | Overall, more than 1 million killed by guns in the US sine 1968. Scaredy cats like Malibu’s solution? More guns. It’s working so well. |
All you do is slam people who have a differing views on guns than you do, but you don't offer your solutions. So tell us mac, oh wise one, what is your workable solution? Surely you must have some ideas from where your criticisms come from. |
From the man who never proposes a solution, simply a link. From the man who cannot put together a coherent argument when asked. But since you asked:
1. Eliminate the gun show loophole.
2. Ban bump stocks.
3. Allow the Federal government to collect information about gun use, rather than ban it.
4. Re-instate the ban on semi-automatic weapons that Feinstein successfully carried through, but without so many loopholes.
5. Educate users about the hazards of having a gun in the home, particularly if you have kids or are robbed.
6. Investigate requiring gun manufacturers to include user identification--fingerprints or codes--that are common on iphones.
None of that interferes with owning a gun for hunting or self-protection. Or in a well-regulated militia. Here is the actual full language of the Second Amendment:
| Quote: | | "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." |
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nw30
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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#5 is pretty much already done, but I will agree with everything else.
Shocking I know, but that just goes to show that you know very little about me, or probably anyone else that you chronically disagree with here.
That's why I asked. |
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real-human
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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any gun made to have a biometric auto lockout.
and all civilian guns to be made with only the technology made when the second amendment was made other than the lockout.
basically, All other guns or weapons of mass destruction must be kept at an armory, and cannot be removed. Such armory is a gun club with shooting ranges and management gets a life sentence if one weapon of mass destruction is removed from the premises and not reported with the film of the perpetrator existing with it as the alarm goes off.
Death penalty for anyone possessing, manufacturing, trading, selling weapons of mass destruction a second time. Who says liberals are not tough on crime.
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Mac, you old fool. Semi automatic weapons are 80% of weapons. A revolver in essence is semi auto. Watch dirty Harry. |
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mac
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| nw30 wrote: | #5 is pretty much already done, but I will agree with everything else.
Shocking I know, but that just goes to show that you know very little about me, or probably anyone else that you chronically disagree with here.
That's why I asked. |
Well, if elements of the right and the left agree on a moderate agenda for reducing access to guns, which party do you think is preventing it from happening? The one you support? |
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nw30
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Neither right now, but the NRA has come out in favor of banning the bump stocks, and they have banned them from being used at their own firing ranges around the country. |
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mac
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Show me a dozen Republicans supporting legislation to ban bump stocks--and anything else. |
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Crime stats |
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MalibuGuru
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| vientomas wrote: | | MalibuGuru wrote: | | mac wrote: | | Confirmation bias at work. Only brown people are dangerous in the eyes of the Malibus of the world. Facts? We don't need no stinking facts. |
He's one of yours Mac, Baja, vientomenos and Bluesmelt.
Devin Kelley, who killed at least 27 people and injured many more, was one of two shooters in the church, according to eyewitnesses, who also report Kelley carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.
2 legally armed civilians took this motherfuka down so police could finish him.
PS, One of the questions on a background check form when purchasing a firearm is whether you've been dishonorably discharged from the military. It appears the Texas church shooter had a dishonorable discharge so he was not a legal gun purchaser. Laws were in place -- but criminals don’t follow them. |
It is mind boggling how stupid you are...everything you post is absolutely wrong! What a freaking right wing puppet. You have absolutely no capacity for critical thinking. Dolt!!! I hope to god you did not procreate.
https://www.snopes.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/
Reports that the perpetrator carried an Antifa flag and told churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” are fake news. |
Actually you goof, everything in my post is true. Even the NRA member who shot the punk twice. You are a fool.
PS, the 2nd shooter is the one who shot the perp, in case you were beginning to crow. |
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boggsman1
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| Here's some more factual data Steve. the perp unloaded 600 rounds in a little over 10 minutes. At the very least, the Assault weapons ban needs to be reinstated. Steven Paddock, Adam Lanza, Devin Kelly, Omar Mateen, all used variants of the AR-15... There is NO place in our society for these weapons.... |
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