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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
After January 1, anyone who owns a large capacity magazine in California will have to just throw them away. Seems like an illegal taking of property which at one time was protected by the constitution..... The guns will be legal, the magazines won't


Or don't get caught with them.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpbassman wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
After January 1, anyone who owns a large capacity magazine in California will have to just throw them away. Seems like an illegal taking of property which at one time was protected by the constitution..... The guns will be legal, the magazines won't


Or don't get caught with them.


more so buy a pvc tube put them in, seal them, bury them 2 feet below the ground, and I think that meets the term disposed of, but could be wrong. But if i was on a jury i could not convict in this case at least now if done that way. as I said I believe there should be armories to keep weapons for private citizens, and this seems like a good alternative till there is one.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
isobars wrote:
techno900 wrote:
I think most of the conservatives here on the forum are fine with ... possibly a restriction on assault type weapons and or magazine size limits ...

Only when combining the two. Limiting pistol magazine capacity to anything less than maybe 20 is suicidal, even for cops.


It's already been done in California sadly. Ten rounds is not enough to take down a couple of dudes beating your wife at 50 yards.


you do not deserve to own a gun then. what would the founders have done. Oh they only had one shot and they survived.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you do not deserve to own a gun then. what would the founders have done. Oh they only had one shot and they survived.

In those days, the enemy only had one shot too. Today, the enemy may have 15-30, so do you respond with one shot?

Your thinking fails to pass the Logic 101 smell test.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
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you do not deserve to own a gun then. what would the founders have done. Oh they only had one shot and they survived.

In those days, the enemy only had one shot too. Today, the enemy may have 15-30, so do you respond with one shot?

Your thinking fails to pass the Logic 101 smell test.


perfect can you list the occurrences where a husband has had to fire from 50 yards because his wife is being accosted by idiots with guns. Surely this is not a delusion in right wingers minds.


Next if they are armed and have your wife you are an idiot to fire at them. your logic is so lacking.

Next, you shoot a guy with a gun to your wife's head he will probably have an involuntary reflex and the trigger blows her brains out. your lack of being able to do logic is so evident.

Your smell is so bad that it makes the internet stink when you post.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baja said: techno900 wrote:
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baja said:
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you do not deserve to own a gun then. what would the founders have done. Oh they only had one shot and they survived.


In those days, the enemy only had one shot too. Today, the enemy may have 15-30, so do you respond with one shot?

Your thinking fails to pass the Logic 101 smell test.

Baja said:
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perfect can you list the occurrences where a husband has had to fire from 50 yards because his wife is being accosted by idiots with guns. Surely this is not a delusion in right wingers minds.


Next if they are armed and have your wife you are an idiot to fire at them. your logic is so lacking.

Next, you shoot a guy with a gun to your wife's head he will probably have an involuntary reflex and the trigger blows her brains out. your lack of being able to do logic is so evident.

Your smell is so bad that it makes the internet stink when you post.
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Instead of dealing with the topic, which you have brought up many times (single shot guns), you get put in a corner and deflect to some silly scenarios that have zero to do with the issue you posted. You need to do better - and "troll post" won't cut it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Ten rounds is not enough to take down a couple of dudes beating your wife at 50 yards.

Any bad guy within 20 feet is considered life-threatening because that's the distance an assailant can charge in the time it takes even seasoned cops to draw and fire. Those same cops also need 7 shots on average to take down ONE bad actor even at "close" range. Factors include drugs, body fat, heavy coats, momentum, armament (few cops carry .45s), adrenaline in both cop and assailant, and more.

Considering that most police shootings happen within arm's length, it's easy to see how a good cop can get antsy when she sees a gun or hears the word, "GUN!" shouted by her partner ... if she has a partner.

This rabble-rousing, idiot-baiting, divisive, blame-the-cops, blame-the-white-man crap has no place in the public discourse, the media, and sure as hell not FROM THE MOUTH OF THE POTUS.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
baja said: techno900 wrote:
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baja said:
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you do not deserve to own a gun then. what would the founders have done. Oh they only had one shot and they survived.


In those days, the enemy only had one shot too. Today, the enemy may have 15-30, so do you respond with one shot?

Your thinking fails to pass the Logic 101 smell test.

Baja said:
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perfect can you list the occurrences where a husband has had to fire from 50 yards because his wife is being accosted by idiots with guns. Surely this is not a delusion in right wingers minds.


Next if they are armed and have your wife you are an idiot to fire at them. your logic is so lacking.

Next, you shoot a guy with a gun to your wife's head he will probably have an involuntary reflex and the trigger blows her brains out. your lack of being able to do logic is so evident.

Your smell is so bad that it makes the internet stink when you post.
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Instead of dealing with the topic, which you have brought up many times (single shot guns), you get put in a corner and deflect to some silly scenarios that have zero to do with the issue you posted. You need to do better - and "troll post" won't cut it.


when I say troll post, it goes when the post made has to disclose personal information on me with intent to harass or put me at risk in general or if a post absolutely has really nothing to do with the post i made/subject I was attacking/debating.

Again my points I made were spot on to everything you said. You just do not like how effective my tangential arguments can be brought in, when you believe I am in a corner. Sorry that is fair game here.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baja said in February:
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I have said it before, I believe every american if they want should have a weapon/gun of the vintage 1776 at home or be able to carry it with them. Unless they have any record of domestic violence at all, violent criminal history, or threats to others at all, and or mental health issues.

If you want anything more powerful or newer than what the founders had, it must remain in a armory at all times and can not be brought out of there except to defend the nation.

An armory would be more of a gun club with shooting ranges, and probably all existing shooting ranges would qualify. The owner of any armory is liable if any gun is removed and they do not notify the authorities right away for any crime. To be licensed to run an armory you can not have any violent criminal background or issues of domestic violence in your past, you must carry insurance. and a few other regs to make sure a homeowner is not a self declared armory.


I guess I wasn't clear with my "single shot gun" post, while you were responding to me regarding MalibuGuru's post about "Ten rounds is not enough to take down a couple of dudes beating your wife at 50 yards.", which didn't make any sense to me since it wasn't my post.

I was trying to get you to elaborate on the above post about single shot long guns for Americans and just how you would achieve the removal or storage of 270 million guns and probably 50 million more that are not known to exist, such as the ones that the bad guys have. If it were possible, which it is not, then only the bad guys would have the "real" guns.

While the left denies that they are for gun confiscation, California seems to be chipping away at it, a little at a time. The back door process is the law about buying ammunition, so the "government" will have records about all gun owners even if no previous record existed, assuming gun owners comply with the law and don't drive to an adjoining state to by ammunition -violating the law. I bet ammunition sales are currently going through the roof, before 2017 arrives. If I was a gun owner in Calif. I would be stocking up now for a lifetime of ammunition.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If I was a gun owner in Calif. I would be stocking up now for a lifetime of ammunition."

Nevada and Arizona are only a few hours away. Wink
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