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J64TWB



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, here’s what you don't do.

1.You don't play into their hands. You don't validate them. You are not fighting a country. You are not fighting an army. You want them on the back page, not the front page. You are fighting a brand, the internet and some barbaric individuals at this point.

Every credible military and political analyst says they want the West to start a war and invade. This means, you don’t. You don't declare war, you don't incite more nuts to join. You do the opposite.

2. Labels mean nothing.

You can call it whatever name you want but it has nothing to do with the NSA, FBI and the military tracking websites, identifying suspects, killing people and keeping infrastructure as safe as possible. Labels are for political use. Unless you call them brain damaged mutants, because who wants to be that?

3. You don't build a wall.

If you spend 70 trillion dollars to build a 30 ft. wall, someone just needs to go to Home Depot and buy a 32 ft. ladder. In fact, they can just build a tunnel to come up in the bathroom of Home Depot 5 miles away. Useless money spent. Besides how do you stop a guy who was born in New York and lived in this country as a security guard for 40 years from going crazy in a gay nightclub with some guns he bought down the road? Get used to that.

4. You don't ban or profile 1/4 of Earths population.

I don’t even have to expand on this.



What you do is…

You can have strict immigration, increase money to intelligence both overseas and at home.

You do exactly what we are doing. Work real hard to stop it at it’s sources. Problem is it has many sources not limited to a single country or even a physical place. If any of you really believe the NSA, the military and FBI are just twirling their thumbs in the backroom playing video games, you have nothing but hate for this country.

Any nut job can buy an AR-15 an blow up a mall in the name or whatever. I would like much stricter regulations to own a firearm. Just like Israel uses. We should be required to pass all sorts of tests and go through many hoops. Then yes, you get your 2nd amendment. If nothing else to help weed out the nut jobs from mowing down our children.

In reality the number of people carrying out these atrocities is incredibly small and the odds of anything happening to you are about as good as wining the powerball. 99% of the 7 billion people on Earth are good. It only takes 1 nut case to get worldwide attention. Get used to that.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Canadians having higher overall approval ratings in that survey you posted, they must be doing a lot of things right. How would they fix what's wrong with Muslims and their proclivity for spreading terrorism in the world?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bluefish--well said. But folks whose objective is political domination, or are woefully uninformed, would rather obsess about Hillary's e-mails, and the fact that 7 of the 8 "top secret" e-mails, that were not marked as such, were about drone bombings reported in the press.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am curious, while traveling I did not notice what happened with the NRA and the shooting of a person with a gun permit, did they go second amendment wild ? Or because he was black did they go dark?


you know the right wing finatics about ruby ridge and so on go crazy when a white man is denied his second amendment rights in any way...

did a search and appears the NRA is a white man organization for rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/nra-criticized-for-response-to-police-shooting-of-man-who-allegedly-said-he-had-carry-permit/2016/07/12/0174b698-4770-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New study shows cops are bigger criminals than legal CCW gun owners..

The study compared permit holders to police, who committed 703 crimes from 2005 to 2007, and 113 of those were firearm violations. “With about 685,464 full-time police officers in the U.S. from 2005 to 2007, we find that there were about 103 crimes per hundred thousand officers,” the report reads. “For the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher—3,813 per hundred thousand people.

New gun study out: media rushes to HIDE results

“We find that permit holders are convicted of misdemeanors and felonies at less than a sixth the rate for police officers,” the report says. “Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 16.5 per 100,000 officers. Among permit holders in Florida and Texas, the rate is only 2.4 per 100,000. That is just one-seventh of the rate for police officers.”
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
New study shows cops are bigger criminals than legal CCW gun owners..

The study compared permit holders to police, who committed 703 crimes from 2005 to 2007, and 113 of those were firearm violations. “With about 685,464 full-time police officers in the U.S. from 2005 to 2007, we find that there were about 103 crimes per hundred thousand officers,” the report reads. “For the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher—3,813 per hundred thousand people.

New gun study out: media rushes to HIDE results

“We find that permit holders are convicted of misdemeanors and felonies at less than a sixth the rate for police officers,” the report says. “Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 16.5 per 100,000 officers. Among permit holders in Florida and Texas, the rate is only 2.4 per 100,000. That is just one-seventh of the rate for police officers.”


Yep ban police officers from having guns same way as the UK use to, in trunks. only guns of the days of the founders allowed.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Yep ban police officers from having guns same way as the UK use to, in trunks. only guns of the days of the founders allowed."


Yeah that will work... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpbassman wrote:
"Yep ban police officers from having guns same way as the UK use to, in trunks. only guns of the days of the founders allowed."


Yeah that will work... Rolling Eyes


certainly did in the UK for a long while. What are their present numbers of gun homicides per capita and total.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baja Bunker is certainly a genius...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
xxx Bunker is certainly a genius...


troll post,

I make a perfectly good suggestion and all you little cry babies do is attack the poster. Post some idea or why my concept will not work, vs going McVeigh/trump.

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