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nw30



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MULLDE102f wrote:
Not sure what your your point is, other than an attempt to change the subject

I'm pretty sure it's about you toddler logic, what, no mention about irresponsible parents? No, it's just the guns in the hands of toddlers, and their love of guns that they have.

I'm sure the #1 target of most toddlers is their parents, those mean parents who won't let the toddlers play with guns, they need to be shot.
Free the toddler!!!!!!
In fact, put them on the front lines of war, they are very good at it.
But there is nothing better than a toddler driving a deadly tank, a sight to behold.

Mediocrity logic at best.
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MULLDE102f



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you guys need to clean the saliva spray off your computer screens. Might be able to follow the conversation better
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Crime rates skyrocketed in Australia after they took the guns away.

And the number of guns is private Ozzie hands is back to pre-confiscation numbers. Maybe now the crime rate will settle down.


while the number crept up right away there as the law passed doubling sales immediately to weapons that were not assault style weapons, again the NRA claims no guns caused the spike but people were replacing them immediately with weapons that were for defensive purposes.

Has there ever been a home invasion that has 10-40 people invading that required an assault weapon in the USA by non drug involved people. Face it home invasions to the 99.9 percent are 2 or less people. And in general an alarm is just as effective if not more effective at making them run than a gun.

Now again australia's crime is much lower though the right wing said without weapons of mass destruction the criminals would prevail. Well that is proven wrong. And no mass murders since they woke up and responded in 1996.

Next again just Japan alone another island shows how banning of virtually all guns is effective. Yes there are some guns, but not a large amount in the illegal and legal part. Less than 1 in 100. Yet the crime rate is much lower than the USA. your right wing theorem says when people do not have guns crime is higher. Well you are wrong.. Are you saying americans are not the greatest in the world and america is not great?

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths
In part by forbidding almost all forms of firearm ownership, the country has as few as two gun-related homicides a year.

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KGB-NP



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

real-human wrote:
Are you saying americans are not the greatest in the world and america is not great?


I don't know if he is, but just about every other developed country in the world knows that's BS propaganda.
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wynsurfer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scientists agree: Guns don't make us safer. Decide for yourself here:

www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/scientists-agree-guns-don't-make-society-safer/
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slinky--You're acting pretty optimistic here, expecting anyone on the right to pay attention to science--or history, or any other set of facts.
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wynsurfer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac, You are probably right! Then again I always have been a bit of a dreamer.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesome SCOTUS ruling,

Yep them right wing abusers do not have a constitutional right to own a gun.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/supreme-court-domestic-violence-gun-rights_us_5771293fe4b0dbb1bbbb0e63?johptxqwqyuj46lxr&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Politics%20062716&utm_content=Politics%20062716+CID_8f0b4a0a257187c0fba6f46443fb1eb7&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Read%20more

Supreme Court Affirms That Even ‘Reckless’ Domestic Abusers Should Lose Gun Rights

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The Supreme Court ruled in a decision announced Monday that a domestic violence assault committed “recklessly” qualifies as a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, and therefore triggers the federal ban on gun ownership.

“A person who assaults another recklessly ‘use[s]’ force, no less than one who carries out that same action knowingly or intentionally,” wrote Justice Elena Kagan, who authored the majority opinion. She was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, as well as Justices Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Samuel Alito.

The case, Voisine v. United States, was brought by two men who lost their right to own or buy guns after being convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors in the state of Maine. Read more.


this makes me very happy....

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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slinky wrote:
Scientists agree: Guns don't make us safer. Decide for yourself here:

www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/scientists-agree-guns-don't-make-society-safer/


No one knows or could know that. It's idiotic. During WW2 the Japanese didn't invade America because it was thought that we all had guns.

Maybe Obama didn't push any more of his idiotic executive authorities because he knew that the rednecks would revolt. You just can't say that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if this new ruling will be part of alaska.

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Remember, Track was the kid who was given the choice of going to jail or serving in the Iraq War, back before his mom was tapped as John McCain’s running mate. You don’t suppose Sarah Palin endorsed Trump today in an attempt to distract from her son’s legal woes, do you?

LoL what a train wreck.

Update 1 (h/t Antitheist):

UPDATE: The Wasilla Police Department told Radar in a press release, “On 01/18/2016 at approximately 2204 hours, Wasilla Police responded to a residence for a disturbance. An investigation revealed Track Palin had committed a domestic violence assault on a female, interfered with her ability to report a crime of domestic violence, and possessed a firearm while intoxicated. Palin was arrested and charges of assault in the fourth degree (domestic violence), interfering with a domestic violence report, and misconduct involving weapons in the fourth degree were forwarded to the District Attorney’s Office. Palin was held without bail until arraignment.”

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