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mrgybe
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:26 am Post subject: |
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"Bambi killing hicks"........pejoratives like that reveal ignorance, not an interest in solutions. |
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14890 Location: on earth
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:37 am Post subject: |
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nice dream.... hope your dream comes true. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard.
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pointster
Joined: 22 Jul 2010 Posts: 376
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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mrgybe wrote: | "Bambi killing hicks"........pejoratives like that reveal ignorance, not an interest in solutions. |
Sorry, I guess I should have called them "plebs"....... |
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jp5
Joined: 19 May 1998 Posts: 3394 Location: OnUr6
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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bluefish1 wrote: | Here is the fundamental difference between liberal and conservative:
Quote: | A conservative says "I don't like guns so I am not going to own one".
A liberal says "I don't like guns so no one should own one". |
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Unless your a Sandy Hook parent who says "I don't like guns and I don't like them mowing down me or my kids".
The way I look at it is...
"I have the right not to get shot".
"My kids have the right not to get shot".
"The people I love have the right not to get shot".
Sorry JP you got it wrong.[/quote]
You left one out: "I have the right to shoot back". |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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pointster wrote: |
1. having a gun will be seen as uncool,
2. pathetic, paranoid fetishists
3. Bambi-killing hicks |
1. Do criminals use guns because they're cool, or because they dominate the unarmed?
2. I suspect your and my friends a) whose loved ones have been murdered by criminals because my friends were unarmed or b) saved their or their families' lives with guns would call you much worse names.
3. So now legitimate, responsible hunting is wrong? Man, if you think mice, raccoons, and mosquitoes are a hassle, how would you like to have your property and streets completely overrun by 200-pound rats with antlers, aka deer? (Some towns and at least one stateside military base have had to exterminate swarming deer.) I'm not willing to shoot game for food, but I see nothing wrong with it if done within sensible laws. That said, many hunters are two-legged animals with no regard for four-footed animals. I've risked severe penalties by breaking strict laws several times to put injured wildlife out of their clearly-terminal misery, and have been disgusted to see hunters refuse to do so. |
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14890 Location: on earth
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | pointster wrote: |
1. having a gun will be seen as uncool,
2. pathetic, paranoid fetishists
3. Bambi-killing hicks |
1. Do criminals use guns because they're cool, or because they dominate the unarmed?
2. I suspect your and my friends a) whose loved ones have been murdered by criminals because my friends were unarmed or b) saved their or their families' lives with guns would call you much worse names.
3. So now legitimate, responsible hunting is wrong? Man, if you think mice, raccoons, and mosquitoes are a hassle, how would you like to have your property and streets completely overrun by 200-pound rats with antlers, aka deer? (Some towns and at least one stateside military base have had to exterminate swarming deer.) I'm not willing to shoot game for food, but I see nothing wrong with it if done within sensible laws. That said, many hunters are two-legged animals with no regard for four-footed animals. I've risked severe penalties by breaking strict laws several times to put injured wildlife out of their clearly-terminal misery, and have been disgusted to see hunters refuse to do so. |
One, you fool people with guns ie the drug lords go after people with guns all the time, soots your stupid argument in the foot right there. and robbers go after banks, armed cars, jewelry stores and so on all the time knowing they are armed you fool. Have told you that before and you have no reply and no argument against it, kinda makes you really a cry baby.
3 you right wingers are such wimps, the founders did just fine with long rifles hunting. Are you that much of a lessor. again go back to the day when men were real men not the wimps your right wingers are now days. again they did just fine fighting off those racoons back then without the machine guns... you wimp. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:28 am Post subject: |
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More people are killed with clubs than rifles. As we get older and less able to manhandle assailants, guns provide safety. They also provide a natural defense against an overly intrusive government.
Yes, a well armed militia could overthrow the government. Don't fool yourselves. Our government will eventually fail. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:35 am Post subject: |
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"More people are killed with clubs than rifles. As we get older and less able to manhandle assailants, guns provide safety. They also provide a natural defense against an overly intrusive government.
Yes, a well armed militia could overthrow the government. Don't fool yourselves. Our government will eventually fail."
Bard, should we be worried about a new Confederacy?
Are you with them? |
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14890 Location: on earth
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: |
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MalibuGuru wrote: | More people are killed with clubs than rifles. As we get older and less able to manhandle assailants, guns provide safety. They also provide a natural defense against an overly intrusive government.
Yes, a well armed militia could overthrow the government. Don't fool yourselves. Our government will eventually fail. |
seriously are you that stupid or are you just a real ashhole?
I have pointed out several times in this thread that you can not fight a tank rolling down the street the government with your pea shooters. You can not stop a fighter jet with your pea shooters. You can not stop government if they use nuclear weapons with your pea shooters. The founders did not envision weapons of such magnitude that the government would possess.
Plus without a constitutional argument the weapons that they envisioned were to stop invasions foreign and inserections coming from america haters like you. But even without that debate you can not stop guided missiles heading your way from the military.
So your argument that you need weapons to fight the government are worthless... and immoral to lie so much.
also I bet you have never been able to handle assailants even in your youth from how wimpy your posts are. yep you just demonstrated exactly what we know about right wingers, they are wimps without guns. You need your guns to be ashholes ie your real selves..
an alarm is much more effective at saving lives and possessions since you are a bed wetter. With smart phones/wifi these alarms are now getting very reasonable in cost, more human factors convenient and more effective. If it will make you a nicer person I will help you pick out a system.
hey wimp, boo... bet you peed your pants again because you can not use your gun on me. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:35 am Post subject: |
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MalibuGuru wrote: | As we get older and less able to manhandle assailants, guns provide safety. |
I've recognized for a few years now that my carrying trigger will be real or outwardly recognizable infirmity. Habitual criminals LOOK for it, my wife is a classic target, and I'm not going to do the smart thing -- run away -- if she's at risk. I definitely do NOT look like a victim yet, but that may change overnight depending on my next anti-cancer steps.
OTOH, I pity the poor sap who assumes that just because she's old, overweight, and has a gimpy gait, she's a pushover. She busts her ass in the gym, grew up on a farm, and thoroughly enjoyed her years at Taekwando. |
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