Gun Nuts

MalibuGuru · Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300

The bad guys will always find weapons. Please don't take them from the good guys.

mac · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:52 pm Post subject:

An idyllic scenario at a beach in England warm enough to wear a bathing suit. Becoming a more common phenomenon, for some unknown reason. Used to justify bias against Muslims.

All children do not live idyllic lives. The children of evangelicals in America, in particular, are beaten to beat the devil out of them. Encouraged by liturgical fervor. Other children are ignored or abused by parents, for a variety of reasons. None of it is good--but there are two questions we must ask ourselves. First, can we do something about it that we are sure makes things better, and second, are we judging a whole culture, or race, or ethnicity, based on the behavior of a few.

Here is perhaps another clue in the nature of disaffection and bigotry. In a letter to the editor in the Jul 27 New Yorker, a Hispanic man from Chapel Hill N. C. relates his experience on Halloween when he and his wife dressed as Muslims and went downtown. One of the more liberal places in the South--but they were berated with Islamophobic insults and told to go back home. Not a coincidence that 3 Muslim students were killed there this past winter.

Of course I'm sure that such behavior has disappeared from England, and has nothing to do with alienation of young Muslims. After all, there are still Irish to torture.

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, nearly a quarter of the population. There are perhaps half a million terrorists justifying their actions with religious texts that are no more extreme than some in the bible. There are far more right wingers in this country alone who are bigoted against Muslims, among other groups.

mrgybe · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180

Don't bite GT. He has an insatiable appetite for conflict and acrimony. I'm sure that, like me, you have far better things to do than feed his craving.

GURGLETROUSERS · Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 2643

No more than expected. But then I don't live through the Google bubble!

Note the 'couldn't resist it' reference to those peace loving men of the I.R.A. Says it all!

mac · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:52 pm Post subject:

We have now heard from a river in Africa.

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

Come on mac, let's not get too judgmental about Islamic immigration, and the overall affect it's has in the UK, France or other European nations. It's not our backyard, so it's important not to get too carried away with the crap going on the sidelines, and how it's being twisted in an untoward way. In my view, folks need to fit into the culture and work to benefit the nation as a whole. The idea of isolated enclaves of folks that don't fit is troublesome, and it's ultimately a threatening element in society.

Here in America, we welcome folks celebrating the American vision and supporting our rich traditions. Few have acceptance for a separate, less tolerant world in our midst. A celebration of cultural heritage is generally welcomed, as long as it doesn't threaten the core American ideal.

pointster · Joined: 22 Jul 2010 Posts: 376

nw30 · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:23 pm Post subject:

GURGLETROUSERS · Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 2643

Signing off note -

Peter Hitchens, paper today in response to the Prime Minister and his speech highlighting the problem we face in our country from militant Islamism. ( He perfectly captures the growing mood and anger in our land.)

' Mr Cameron and Mr Blair and their predecessors over decades, have gone a long way to Islamising this country through uncontrolled immigration and state multi-culturalism. They have begun to panic because they at last realise what they have done, and rightly fear they cannot stop it.'

Quite so sir! Nail on head!

feuser · Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Posts: 1508