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bufferankle22



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres that link for who asked for it i cant remember your name now soz but here you go
manic depression
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pueno



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Mac, Big government (Bush) and even bigger government (Obama)...

Ah, yes. I love to see "facts" from the fringe right.

Here's a genuine fact...... unless you think the Bureau of Labor Statistics lies in order to give guys like you some red meat.

Please note that the size of the US government grew under Dubya, and (except for the spike caused by the census effort) has been steadily declining under your BFF Obama.

If you extrapolate the curve to 2014, we're at about the size of government in the 2002-2004 period.

So, where's "even bigger under Obama" part?




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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it a GD rest, bufferass. We don't want your spam.
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reinerehlers



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New forum rule: no engaging the spambots. Wink
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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
the borders are being flooded with children

I doubt these guys hear much about the soon-to-be-hundreds of thousands of South American children being dumped into the U.S. by coyotes and then dumped into the streets again in strange cities by the federal government. Most media are saying little about it because it is happening because Obama told the world that any kid who jumps though Obama's own personally fabricated list of 13 hoops gets to not only stay permanently but can bring his/her extended family along and everybody gets citizenship ... or so they believe. The result has been a 1,000 percent surge, which is projected to be absolutely DWARFED within couple of weeks as entire villages throughout SA join the parade. These kids are facing virtually no food, bathrooms, showers, medical care, personal attention, etc. simply because they totally swamp our resources despite the migration being documented and forecast for years now.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reinerehlers wrote:
New forum rule: no engaging the spambots. Wink

I like that rule when genuine spambots are the problem. Every once in a while, though, ya get a live one who wants to defend himself, giving us a chance to rub his face in his mess and throw him into the back yard. Smile
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISO...maybe you chose to engage him because he is pitching a remedy for manic depression.....Your state is experiencing 30+ everyday on the Coast...the best wave sailing on the planet is occurring just a few hours from your house, and your wasting time on these pages....
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reinerehlers



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're swells not waves.....unless you're referring to the coast.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard--I'm not sure what you are smoking--this sounds like crack:

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If we'd let the bankers go bust, the little people would own everything today.


Clearly someone who doesn't bother to read things before they disagree with them and admits to attention disorder, hasn't read anything about the great bank panics of 1873, 1893, and 1907. Much less the Great Depression. Bank panics did far more damage to the economy than the bail-outs, and led to the enactment of the Glass-Steagall Act. Here is the impact in a nutshell, from a credible source:

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The stock market crash of October 1929 left the American public highly nervous and extremely susceptible to rumors of impending financial disaster. Consumer spending and investment began to decrease, which would in turn lead to a decline in production and employment. Another phenomenon that compounded the nation’s economic woes during the Great Depression was a wave of banking panics or “bank runs,” during which large numbers of anxious people withdrew their deposits in cash, forcing banks to liquidate loans and often leading to bank failure.


So the American experience has shown us that the damage to consumer confidence is much greater than the other impacts. But you apparently also don't know who Santayana was.

The bi-partisan bail out, odious as it was, is better than the alternatives--which would have made the loss of jobs even greater, and made money only for hedge funders. The US economy has recovered better than most. But don't trouble you with facts. Keep listening to talk radio and reading Drudge, for the perfect storm of ignorance.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR...please re-read my post.
BTW- ISO engaged in a 300 page thread a few years ago , trying to convince the masses that Gorge swell was , in fact, the same as ocean waves....


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