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techno900



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youwindsurf said:
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Outlaws are citizens too.


At least the ones that are here legally.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
techno900 wrote:
reinerehlers said:
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Sounds like the chicken or the egg scenario. I think Australia figured out how to crack the egg and kill the chicken. Little worries about getting pecked there now.


Australia's population is about the same as NY State. Much less of a challenge than we would have in the US. Also, Australia's constitution likely doesn't guarantee the right to bear arms. Just a guess.


Another huge problem is our porous border. There is a war going on in Mexico. The bad guys have weapons. Those weapons would find their way to the US if we banned ours. Heavy fire power, no registration, and weapons that would go right to the criminals hands. Can you imagine what kind of bloodshed would ensue?


I think there is a point here you made, in Mexico where basically only the bad guys have guns, well the average killing is not the good people....

I would bet if you backed out the right wing drug terrorist killings their murder rate would be very low.

again with the right wing mantra that only the bad people would have guns would not a disater as their mantra claims.

The US economy is not run on drugs like Mexicos is. what top 3 or 4 for making money in Mexico is drugs. In the US this would be about number ???? 3000.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekend stats. Two days. 37 shot, 8 dead, 5 were children.
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frederick23



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction, 6 were children. All on Sunday. Easter Sunday.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frederick23 wrote:
Weekend stats. Two days. 37 shot, 8 dead, 5 were children.


Yes, sadly under Democratic rule for generations, Chicago has more deaths than the Ukraine and Crimea, where there are a lot of weapons too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last 18 hour stats. 18 shot, 4 dead. Just since friday afternoon. It's 8am.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
frederick23 wrote:
Weekend stats. Two days. 37 shot, 8 dead, 5 were children.


Yes, sadly under Democratic rule for generations, Chicago has more deaths than the Ukraine and Crimea, where there are a lot of weapons too.

With some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
A lot of good that does.
So it sure ain't for the lack of gun laws, gotta be something else.
But what could it be? I say the lack of father figures.

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isobars



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
But what could it be?

Poor enforcement + PC = laughter from the gang bangers.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitwit30 wrote:

So it sure ain't for the lack of gun laws, gotta be something else.
But what could it be? I say the lack of father figures.

Probably because not everybody has guns.

According to our hero Wayne LaPierre, that beacon of logic and reasoned rationale, if they all had guns, then nobody would be shot.

And in stark contrast . . . . . . if nobody had guns, then they'd all be shot.

Or -- maybe because the few "father figures" the kids have, Mikey's gang banger role models, ALL pack and use their guns.

And the beat goes on, bang, bang........
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived most of my life in a country with almost no guns because of restrictive gun laws.
No one got shot at all.now we have guns and our murder rate is much higher than Chicago.
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