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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
the ACA will go down as one of the biggest presidential debacles ever in US history.

You KNOW it's headed that direction when even the NYT and similar DNC lap dogs are ripping him a new one over the ACA.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boggs,

Obama's promise/lie that you can keep your plan was a snow job. OF COURSE those with the corporate plans could keep their plans, they have NOTHING to do with the ACA.

Why would Obama be making promises to those not a part of the ACA. He was talking to those with individual plans that ARE at the mercy of the ACA's new requirements. Yes, plans get renewed annually with price changes, mostly up but some down. The point is, those with individual plans CAN'T keep the same plan and the same coverage as they once did. HE LIED and he has know it for three years.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgGlFlVVhVQ
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technoo..the venerable Wall Street Journal , which I have been reading daily since 1988, has stooped a little since Rupert bought it. But, since the right is doing everything in its power to stop the ACA, the Journal decided to post an op-ed by Suzanne Somers on its "expert" page today. This is not a satire:
http://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2013/10/28/suzanne-somers-the-affordable-care-act-is-a-socialist-ponzi-scheme/?KEYWORDS=suzanne+somers
During the debate, the right continuously stated that corporations would stop covering employees if the ACA gave them an out, so a lot of his promise WAS to employer insured people.
Look, you can call Obama a liar if it warms your cockels, but I think its a stretch.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard a quote somewhere, that makes more sense to me the more I look at the Ocare requirements of insurers, as opposed to what they actually provide in our policies...

"The American people have been sold a Rolls Royce, and will be surprised to find out that they are getting a Rolls Royce."

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
...the Journal decided to post an op-ed by Suzanne Somers on its "expert" page today. This is not a satire:
http://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2013/10/28/suzanne-somers-the-affordable-care-act-is-a-socialist-ponzi-scheme/?KEYWORDS=suzanne+somers
During the debate, the right continuously stated that corporations would stop covering employees if the ACA gave them an out, so a lot of his promise WAS to employer insured people.


Great piece of journalism, haha - but I was distracted after 5 seconds and had to click on "Five things you nanny won't tell you" (rather disappointing, in spite of the interesting thumbnail).

Pretty hard to take the WSJ seriously, seriously.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to admit that Suzanne Somers did hit all the Republican talking points in her brief commentary. There you have it from a Hollywood star.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
I have to admit that Suzanne Somers did hit all the Republican talking points in her brief commentary. There you have it from a Hollywood star.
Ronnie was pretty good in his role too
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now I understand your loathing of Obama.
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