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pueno



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:
Here's another example of what we face when Obamacare morphs into its stated objective of single-payer, government-run healthcare

I'm looking at my quarterly Medicare care summary. This SUMMARY is 16 dense pages long.

Oh, boo-hoo-fucking-hoo. Mikey has to read 16 pages.

The ignominy of it.

You are a whiner, complainer, and O-hater without equal.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reinerehlers wrote:
Popcorn anyone? By a certain person's definition this thread has been officially trolled, which means all gloves are off, and any unfounded accusations of child molestation / beatings, racism, or stalking are condoned which may lead to monetary challenges in moot courts or legal threats of harassment charges being brought against them. Let this be a warning to you all. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

On topic....I thought to myself today, "how much of the argument of Obamacare is about "resistance to change" and just pure selfishness?"


Reiner

Some of that for sure. But, the HHS (the govt branch running the program) has done a notably bad job with the administration of this legislation. Every couple weeks, it seems, my wife gets a notice of another delay or tweak. Latest was that the new coding system for all services will be delayed by another year or so. We just about ordered new software and a new computer to deal with it ($3k). Now, don't need it! It wears you down!
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CBO announced today that they could no longer score the US budget because of Obamacare. They say the law isn't being implemented as written. In addition they said that it is too complicated, and they will no longer even try to budget for it.

This is frightening, unless you just smoked a large bowl of weed.... Embarassed
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news for those of you who want to see ObamaCare succeed.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2014/jul/Health-Coverage-Access-ACA
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techno900



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocking, subsidized health care is succeeding. Now it's a question of how it will be paid for.

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North Carolinians need to buckle up. Over the next few months, you’ll learn how much your health insurance premiums will go up for next year. The early evidence isn’t good – the percentage increase could be in the double digits. But that’s nothing compared with what you’ll face in 2017.

In May, I released a comprehensive study showing how the Affordable Care Act – otherwise known as Obamacare – will likely play out in North Carolina over the next few years. The diagnosis isn’t good.

First, the short version. In two years, the ACA’s structural problems will lead to substantial premium increases. Once that happens, North Carolinians will likely leave the insurance market in droves. They’ll have little choice – they won’t be able to afford health insurance because federal subsidies won’t keep up with the rapid price increases. Within a decade, this could swell the ranks of the state’s uninsured by 57 percent.

This isn’t baseless speculation. I reached this conclusion by using a peer-reviewed economic model published in several health journals. It was funded by both private and government sources, including the Department of Health and Human Services, and has been cited by multiple Supreme Court justices in ACA-related rulings.

But why won’t this happen until 2017? Because that’s the year the Affordable Care Act goes into full effect and certain temporary provisions begin to sunset. The changes will affect all plans sold for 2017 and beyond.

Two big changes will occur that year: Insurance companies will no longer have access to ACA’s “re-insurance” and “risk corridor” programs. The first item currently allows insurers to bill the government for the most expensive patients; the second one guarantees that the industry’s losses will be subsidized by you. When these two programs end, the insurance industry won’t have access to taxpayer money.

That leaves North Carolinians to pick up the tab. Without taxpayer money, insurers in the state will increase plan premiums to cover the sudden shortfall. They’ll have no other choice – the other option is to go out of business.


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/07/06/3983209/future-of-obamacare-bleak-for.html#storylink=cpy
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Techno, there are many unquantifyable benefits to being insured...should we include them in your cost/benefit analysis?
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember all the claims by Mikey about how all the new demand was going to kill the entire health care system? Don't wait for an apology for the fake facts that he repeated--along with his posse:

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Remember all those predictions that Obamacare was going to create a crush of pent-up medical demand? All these millions of newly insured people were not only going to pack doctors’ offices, but they were all going to be sick with all sorts of untreated illnesses like diabetes and clogged arteries?

That doesn’t seem to have happened, according to a new report.

In fact, visits appear to be down slightly over 2013, before 9 million people or more gained fresh insurance under the 2010 Affordable Care Act, the team at Athenahealth found.

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“Most specialty types did not see higher new patient visit rates for the first five months of 2014 than they did in the same period in 2013. Indeed, with the exception of pediatrics, all specialties are seeing lower new patient visit rates in 2014 compared to 2013,” they wrote.

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youwindsurf



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iso:
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