Pipe dream? Obamacare

[mac]

NW, NW, NW--the holes in your logic are big enough to drive a health care bill through. You either use reasoned discussion and set the example of politeness, or you reap the consequences. You cannot profess to be above the fray if you insult liberals in generals, hate, without specifics, liberal programs as you just posted, and your insults are limited to Obama. You have announced that that is how you argue. This, is nonsense:

[boggsman1]

Kentucky Governor just on CNBC says 50,000 people have signed, CA is doing well as well.

[keycocker]

Techno,
No offense but the left does have an issue with borrowing.
I feel shy to repeat my post to pueno because it mis not seem respectful.

The key thing that Cruz wants you to forget is that we are all paying for health care for 30% of Americans. That will remain but at a lower level because they are insisting many of those people pay for all or part of the premium.
Those health costs of others all taxpayers are paying are charged at an enormous markup, sometimes 10,000%
ACA is trying to fix that ripoff.
They are hoping that preventive medicine can make us all healthier too, lowering costs and improving life for all Americans.
Not supporting ACA here, just supporting the truth.

[boggsman1]

Techno...the Right doesnt have an issue with borrowing. If they did , when they controlled BOTH houses of Congress AND 1600 Penn Ave. they wouldnt have passed Medicare Part D AND doubled the debt, AND cut taxes while fighting a super expensive war. Sorry brah...your logic is now competing with NW.

[keycocker]

When I ask libs and conservatives their own opinions about borrowing and public debt they ALL have a problem with it.
It is pols who want to spend money whether we have it or not.
The GOP always blamed spending on the Dems until they were outed by the events Boggsy helpfully recounted.
As Techno demonstrates, the GOP is back to trying to trick conservatives with that old saw about liberal spending.

[swchandler]

techno900,

Why do I get the impression that you think that there wasn't a problem before the ACA came along? Someone has to pay for the millions of folks that don't have health insurance when they require medical care. Are you conveniently forgetting that? Seemingly, you don't support either the single payer or capitalistic ACA approaches to resolving the existing problem, so how would propose dealing with the millions requiring medical care that can't pay? I'm all ears.

[coboardhead]

Techno

You are correct that paying customers are required to make the system work. I am one of those paying customers who has not signed up. Why? Because my insurance does not need to be renewed for 4 months. So, at this time there is no way to judge the number of folks that will be signing. There are plenty of news accounts that discuss the rest of the story...almost daily on public radio here in CO.

CO website does not register sign ups until the payment button is pushed and most of the policies start after the first of the year. Who is gonna charge their credit card now, when they can wait until the end of Dec to do it?

While I am dissatisfied with the rollout of the ACA, I am not as eager to call it a failure until I see the rest of the facts.

I find it ironic that a conservative is touting Medicare and SS as model government programs.

[windoggi]

Its like the uninsured, unhelmeted motorcycle rider that doesn't want the gummint telling him what to do. When he hits a moose, he needs to take responsibility for his own actions...he must accept a slow death by the side of the road as we drive by. Simple. Who needs the ACA?

[pueno]

[nw30]