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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pueno wrote:
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The rich are getting richer under Obama but the little guy is again getting the shaft.

If that's really true, then Mitt and the right must LOVE Obama.
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Yes Pueno, you finally got it right. The moguls, hedge fund operators, Warren Buffet, and George Soros love this guy. They fund him, they promote him, and they profit by him. I've made a ton of money because of Obama. So has Boggs. That doesn't make him good for our future. I'm afraid of the coming crash because of his policies.
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windoggie



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just what is it that you want from this guy?
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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The right just keeps screaming, and they can't think of a coherent line. Now look at this for a second:

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nsurers Oppose Obamacare Extension as Danger to Profits...


So healthcare costs have been going up very rapidly--in part because of obscene profits for insurance companies and big pharma. And reducing those profits to something reasonable is a bad thing?
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you read it properly, it is the extension they are worried will cut their profits. IOW's they anticipate making way more money because of the law, and are worried if it is postponed they will lose profits. How does that help the consumer??
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pueno



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They fund him, they promote him, and they profit by him.

Really? The Koch Brothers fund Obama? Murdock approves of Obama? The military-industrial complex (CHENEY) promotes Obama?

Who'd've thunk it?

Tell me, Mr. B...... what space-time universe do you come from and how'd you get here?
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isobars



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now the "most transparent administration in history" is pressuring the insurance industry to suppress news of its cancelled policies ... >2,000,000 and rapidly counting. Jay Carney's reaction? Oh, that couldn't be.

The left is being played like a hand flute.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hand flute?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right hand flute or left hand flute?
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pueno wrote:
stevenbard wrote:
They fund him, they promote him, and they profit by him.

Really? The Koch Brothers fund Obama? Murdock approves of Obama? The military-industrial complex (CHENEY) promotes Obama?

Who'd've thunk it?

Tell me, Mr. B...... what space-time universe do you come from and how'd you get here?
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You can mention 2 guys? Wow...today in the news

GOLDMAN SACHS pays Hillary nearly half a million -- for two speeches?

This is an every day occurrence for Obama and Clinton.
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See Bard, you can post a criticism of Hillary that is not misogynist. I agree with it. The Clinton foundation is indeed too cozy with big money businesses and people. While the Foundation does some very good things, and both Hillary and Bill are very smart, their ability to recognize conflicts of interest radar seems to be broken. Raising too much money for politics for too many years has compromised them both. But despite that, and his sleazy personal ethics around sexual behavior, Bill was an excellent President. Bush II, although he may have been a decent man, was a terrible President in almost every way.

But you are unhinged when it comes to Obama. By all reputable accounts, he is a much more principled man than the last four Presidents, and is uneasy with raising money from, and granting ready access, to the oligarchs. You've got it 100% wrong. You are also wrong about oversight of the banks--its taken a long time, and has been too cautious, but the DOJ, under Obama's direction, is taking on the big banks and exacting significant civil settlements for their behavior. Something that Bush II actually prevented.
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