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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
Feeding a stray dog is not compassion; it merely enables its subsistence ...
Has anyone ever called you a nazi?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
"legislation regarding abortion, gay marriage, Ten Commandments posting, free Fluking rubbers, evolution, bible passages, and dozens of other such nationally unimportant issues guaranteed to repel ideologues..."


What the hell? Nationally unimportant issues? Our character from the Great Northwest is the poster child for bogus "states rights" nonsense that would Balkanize and weaken our nation in so many different ways. States should have the right to limit our liberties and freedoms? Coming from a guy that grew up in Alabama, it's no smaller wonder that he would rally around and promote nonsense.


Like I said, Mr. Ficktion admitted he had no time for national politics until 2000 when his age was probably well over 50, too late to develop a nuanced perspective just by observing the world on the internets. Not that formal education is a prerequisite to compassion, but the only way I know to jam thousands of hours of comparative issue analysis into such a short period of time is full time university education. Mr. Mike hasn't done that since walking out of his last classroom decades ago.

Hyperbole his calling card, closed minded-ness his method. He knows not of what he speaks (to himself, mostly.)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
"Compassion", as a national policy, is neither a goal or a path to freedom and national success. It's why liberals are called bleeding hearts, and slavish devotion to it leads to an unearned entitlement mentality followed by national bankruptcy, a la Greece.


The post hoc propter hoc fallacy at work.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac posted: [quote]California--one of the state's leading the recovery and the innovation economy--now appears to have a supermajority of Democrats in the legislature. What happened? Interesting article:
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Some may be doing well in California, but not all. And what about all those that aren't working?

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Poverty-level wages cost U.S. taxpayers $153 billion every year

By Public Affairs, UC Berkeley | April 13, 2015

BERKELEY —
While the U.S. economy rebounds, persistent low wages are costing taxpayers approximately $153 billion every year in public support to working families, including $25 billion at the state level, according to a new report from the University of California, Berkeley, Center for Labor Research and Education. The report details for the first time the state-by-state cost to taxpayers of low wages in the United States.

More than half of low-wage fast-food workers nationwide take advantage of public assistance, ranging from food stamps to Medicaid. (Photo licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 by Drpoulette)

Following decades of wage cuts and health benefits rollbacks, more than half of all state and federal spending on public assistance programs (56 percent) now goes to working families, the report documents.

“When companies pay too little for workers to provide for their families, workers rely on public assistance programs to meet their basic needs,” said Ken Jacobs, chair of the labor center and co-author of the new report. “This creates significant cost to the states.”

The report analyzed state spending for Medicaid/Children’s Health Insurance Program and Temporary Aid to Needy Families (TANF), and federal spending for those programs and food stamps (SNAP) and the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC).

The UC Berkeley researchers also report that:
•On average, 52 percent of state public assistance spending supports working families, with costs as high as $3.7 billion in California, $3.3 billion in New York and $2 billion in Texas.
•Reliance on public assistance can be found among workers in a diverse range of occupations, including frontline fast-food workers (52%), childcare workers (46%), home care workers (48%) and even part-time college faculty (25%).

From 2003 to 2013, wage growth remained flat or negative for the entire bottom 70 percent of workers in the United States, Jacobs said. Over the same time, the share of non-elderly Americans receiving health insurance from an employer fell almost 10 percentage points, from 67 percent to 58 percent. Despite modest pay raises at some of the country’s largest and most profitable employers, including Walmart and McDonald’s, wages continue to lag far behind inflation.

The researchers note that raising wages would result in significant savings to state and federal governments. In recent months, the substantial cost of low wages has prompted elected officials to take action. California, Colorado, Maine, Oregon and Washington are considering increasing the minimum wage to $12 or higher. In Connecticut, a proposal currently moving through the state legislature would fine large companies that pay low wages in an effort to recoup the cost these companies impose on taxpayers. The Congressional Democrats’ fiscal year 2016 budget proposal unveiled last month included a provision that would roll back tax breaks for large companies that fail to raise pay on pace with inflation.

“Our public-assistance programs provide a vital support system for American families. Raising wages would lift working families out of poverty and allow all levels of government to better target how our tax dollars are used,” Jacobs said.
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From: [url]https://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2015/04/13/poverty-level-wages-cost-u-s-taxpayers/
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