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youwindsurf



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reinerehlers wrote:
youwindsurf wrote:
Canadians use marijuana at four times the world average, making Canada the leader of the industrialized world in cannabis consumption, a recent United Nations report found.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canada-tokes-at-4-times-world-average-un-1.659074


youwindsurf,
We smoke it but we're like American politicians and don't inhale. Do you have any stats on how many of us bang our interns and then lie about it?


1. 1933: John Edward Brownlee. Alberta’s fifth premier was forced to resign after he was sued for seduction by Vivian MacMillan, an 18-year-old daughter of one of Brownlee’s political allies. There was much speculation that Brownlee had been the victim of a political set-up after he noticed he had been followed on a country drive by one of the girl’s teenaged suitors and a prominent Edmonton lawyer and Liberal party supporter. The case eventually went all the way to the Supreme Court, which sided with MacMillan.

2. 1966: The Munsinger Affair. Gerda Munsinger was a German prostitute and alleged KGB spy who seduced several cabinet ministers in the Diefenbaker govern- ment of the late 1950s. Among them was the associate minister of national defence, Pierre Sevigny, who signed Munsinger’s application for Canadian citizenship. The scandal was a well-kept secret among Ottawa politicians until 1966, when Liberal justice minister Lucien Cardin, fending off an opposition attack in the House of Commons on his handling of security breaches, asked: “What about Munsinger?” By then she had been deported, but reporters tracked her down in Munich, where she openly admitted to her numerous political affairs.

3. 1977: Margaret Trudeau and the Rolling Stones. Margaret Trudeau spent her sixth wedding anniversary without her prime minister husband, instead partying with the Rolling Stones at a Toronto nightclub and later in Mick Jagger’s limousine. The rendezvous sparked rumours that she was having an affair with the band’s front man. She later disappeared to New York. The scandal signalled the end of the couple’s tumultuous marriage, but Margaret Trudeau denied having affairs with any members of the Rolling Stones, later telling a conference on mental health, “I should have slept with every single one of them.”

4. 1978: Francis Fox. The 38-year-old solicitor general was the youngest member of Trudeau’s cabinet and a rising star when he was forced to publicly admit that he had secretly arranged for a former mistress to have an abortion, and had forged her husband’s signature on hospital records granting her permission for the procedure. The relationship didn’t last and neither did Fox’s marriage. His political career, however, survived. Fox resigned as solicitor general, but went on to be re-elected and reappointed to cabinet. He was made a senator in 2005, and stepped down last year.

5. 1983: Graham Harle. Alberta’s solicitor general, Graham Harle, was discovered by police parked outside a seedy Edmonton motel with a prostitute in his government car. The 51-year-old Harle claimed he was conducting an investigation into the province’s prostitution industry and had concluded that the sex trade didn’t “appear to be a problem right at the moment.” He stepped down from cabinet after the public refused to accept the story of his undercover operation.

6. 1986: Bob McClelland. B.C. industry minister and one-time Social Credit leadership contender Bob McClelland admitted he had paid $130 to Top Hat Escort in 1985 to have a prostitute sent to his hotel after having “a fair amount to drink.” His dalliance was uncovered after a police investigation into the escort agency uncovered his credit card details. McClelland resigned in August 1986 after testifying at a trial into Top Hat’s activities.

7. 1993: The Wilson-Tyabji Affair. B.C. Liberal leader Gordon Wilson was fresh off a surprise victory that catapulted his party into official Opposition status when he appointed 27-year-old Judy Tyabji as his house leader. It didn’t take long for rumours to start that the two, both married, shared more than just political leanings, though both Wilson and Tyabji vehemently denied any affair. Wilson resigned as party leader the next year just as Tyabji was dumped as house leader by the party. They both later came clean about the affair, left their spouses, got married and quit the Liberals to form the short-lived Progressive Democratic Alliance.

8. 2008: Maxime Bernier. Maxime Bernier, the star of Stephen Harper’s Quebec caucus, was forced to resign as foreign affairs minister after admitting he had left classified government documents at the home of his then-girlfriend, Julie Couillard, a woman who had previously dated two Hell’s Angels associates. Shortly after they broke up, Couillard gave a tell-all television interview about the relationship, which she followed up with a book.

9. Potential Scandal: John Diefenbaker. In 2010, 42-year-old Toronto legal consultant George Dryden launched a lawsuit against his parents alleging he was the illegitimate love child of former Conservative prime minister John Diefen- baker and that his mother, Mary Lou Dryden, a well-known Conservative socialite, had forged his birth certificate because of “political sensitivities” of the day. He has since gone on a quest to prove his lineage, although DNA tests on samples from personal items provided by the Diefenbaker Canada Centre in Saskatoon came up inconclusive.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you windsurf.
you rock.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR,
We agree about testing for being high at work on a construction job that day. We need a test like that.
Too bad that test isn't used.
The standard one tests for last month or two for pot anyway.
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reinerehlers



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC,
I figured you would agree but others seem fixated on "rights" over logic / common sense, or is that uncommon sense?

Youwindsurf,
I wish I had your free time.

Off to the land of Cuba.
Razz
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youwindsurf



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reinerehlers wrote:
KC,
I figured you would agree but others seem fixated on "rights" over logic / common sense, or is that uncommon sense?

Youwindsurf,
I wish I had your free time.

Off to the land of Cuba.
Razz


To Google "canadian politician sex scandal" took 0.35 seconds. The information posted was in the second hit. Took about one minute total to read, cut and paste.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My teen friends look up things nonstop in casual conversation. It drives pompous adults nuts at family dinners in France. They have every fact at hand like You does.
Finally my uncle stopped talking to anyone who was going to check facts.
This little social custom among the young is quietly changing the world.
Guys like Iso with all those fake facts from Talk Radio are shown to be clowns in every conversation by smiling 12year olds.
Google glass anyone?
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to wonder though, what's the result of everyone being enthralled in another world. Pretty damn consuming. While I have a laptop at home, I've never had a cellphone, or even an MP3 player. When it comes down to it, one might say that it's arguably me that lives in another world hanging on to a different time.
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reinerehlers



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
You have to wonder though, what's the result of everyone being enthralled in another world. Pretty damn consuming. While I have a laptop at home, I've never had a cellphone, or even an MP3 player. When it comes down to it, one might say that it's arguably me that lives in another world hanging on to a different time.

Swchandler,
I just returned from Cuba with no internet access, no cell phone....nothing. It was pure sweetness to not be bothered by such devices. I'm home for a day and realize their impact on my life, they're convenient yet consuming. I get home and it's non stop business and personal text messages and 40 emails to respond to. I want to go back.
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frederick23



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR, Tell us more! My brother went there recently and said once you get out of the tourist areas it is much different. He spoke of a cab ride out in the middle of nowhere, where two cabs approached each other from opposite directions, slowed as if in a drug deal, flickered lights, stopped, got out of the cars very discreetly, only to realize they were exchanging a few pieces of fruit! All under the table.

I sometimes long for the old days as well. No phone mail systems. "press one to press 2. Press 3 if you want to another option. Press 4 to repeat the options". ARRRGH!

I cant even buy gas without answering 10 questions. "Do you want a car wash? NO! Do you want Doritos? No! Would you like a debit card? No! It is 10 degrees out here!

Give me the simple life.
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GURGLETROUSERS



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed the young, and not so young, who continually check and regurgitate facts from their electronic devices while discussing things drive many older adults mad, but are they thinking for themselves, or even feeling things?

Think back to our pre-electronic student days when we'd sit up all night, ferociously thrashing out opinions about anything and everything under the sun, with not a fact in sight. More intense and character forming wouldn't you say, than just clicking on buttons, like some automated robot!

I read some research a while back (not looking it up -read it at the time, and thought about it) which warned that our over reliance on the internet may be dulling our imagination, and altering our brain patterns. (Not having to reason for ourselves.)

So no, I don't think older adults who despair of trying to discuss things with gadget controlled teens are necessarily pompous - just exasperated!
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