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frederick23



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: NPR Reply with quote

For those of you who think NPR is just a simple liberal microphone. On todays Hear and Now they had a very long interview with a constitutional expert who was just pounding Obama on his abuse of power. Couldn't have been tougher on him. NPR does not shy away from being actually fair and balanced.

Check out the audio link here.

http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/02/27/power-presidency-turley

Just before the scathing report on Obama, they spent a full hour interviewing the astrophysicist Neil Degrasse Tyson. Here is the audio link to the most fascinating topic of all. A full hour!

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/27/283443670/neil-degrasse-tyson-explains-why-the-cosmos-shouldnt-make-you-feel-small

All in all a very informative 2 hours for me. No other News organization comes close to there coverage. Not even close.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: NPR Reply with quote

frederick23 wrote:
For those of you who think NPR is just a simple liberal microphone. On todays Hear and Now they had a very long interview with a constitutional expert who was just pounding Obama on his abuse of power. Couldn't have been tougher on him. NPR does not shy away from being actually fair and balanced.

Check out the audio link here.

http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/02/27/power-presidency-turley

Just before the scathing report on Obama, they spent a full hour interviewing the astrophysicist Neil Degrasse Tyson. Here is the audio link to the most fascinating topic of all. A full hour!

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/27/283443670/neil-degrasse-tyson-explains-why-the-cosmos-shouldnt-make-you-feel-small

All in all a very informative 2 hours for me. No other News organization comes close to there coverage. Not even close.


I agree, but try telling that to a Fox "News" disciple.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear Obama critics on NPR routinely. I have been assured repeatedly by those who have never listened to NPR that never happens.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NPR is reading the signs on the wall, and they don't want to be caught on the wrong side of history.
I applaud them this time.

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pueno



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
NPR is reading the signs on the wall, and they don't want to be caught on the wrong side of history.
I applaud them this time.

Not a fair or accurate statement from you. NPR has always been like that. But you're forgiven for not knowing, since Fox is your "go to" source.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote.... "If you're a scientist and you have an answer, even in the absence of data, you're not going to be a good scientist."

So how does that apply to computer modellers, who take what may be less than complete (or fully understood) data, and project that into the future to give a single outcome?

Are they considered good or bad scientists?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GURGLETROUSERS wrote:
Quote.... "If you're a scientist and you have an answer, even in the absence of data, you're not going to be a good scientist."

So how does that apply to computer modellers, who take what may be less than complete (or fully understood) data, and project that into the future to give a single outcome?

Are they considered good or bad scientists?

Someone who has "the answer" (a preconceived outcome) without any supporting data to lead to that outcome is not a scientist, since the scientific method could not have been used (e.g., proposing and then testing a hypothesis... or model).

A computer scientist who builds a model does it with abundant data of past performance and uses that data to (approximately) predict future performance. The scientist builds a performance model in computer code, and then tests the past data against that model. When the model appears to perform, it can be used to look forward, thus predicting future behavior.

Those computer scientists simply build and then validate the model. That's neither good nor bad. But the approach follows accepted scientific practices of testing hypotheses (educated guesses).

Deviations between predicted behavior and observed behavior becomes data that's used to further refine the model.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NPR's ombudsman ripped them apart a year or two ago when their top management were caught on tape hanging over the Left edge of the earth. They had no choice but to pull back from the edge lest they lose their grip entirely. That liberal Constitutional law professor, Jonathan Turley, has been on many Fox news, analysis, and discussion shows for days now. He supports Obama's goals, but is adamant about how seriously Obama's methods violate the Constitution. (BTW Obama was not a Constitutional law professor; he was a lecturer ... as was I in graduate school. BIG difference between lecturer and professor.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was a remarkable moment during a congressional hearing on Wednesday when constitutional law expert and self-proclaimed Obama supporter, Jonathan Turley, explained the legislative branch of the U.S. government is in danger of becoming irrelevant because of persistant executive overreach. Turley, who is a professor of public interest law at George Washington University in Washington, D.C., believes America has reached a “constitutional tipping point” under President Obama’s watch.

See and Listen to Turley’s remarks below:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZabKoPtgG3E&feature=youtu.be
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:
BTW Obama was not a Constitutional law professor; he was a lecturer ... as was I in graduate school. BIG difference between lecturer and professor.

Yes.... and the other huge difference between you and Obama is that Obama actually knows factual and true stuff.
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