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slinky



Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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Location: Old Saybrook Ct.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Religion is governance by other means. I have seen many assertions of Obama's mothers beliefs regarding religion. She's an athiest, agnostic, etc.

It apears that Obama attended both christian and muslim schools. it seems to me that his mother may have been a believer in god, but perhaps did not endorse any one faith. Maybe she is an atheist, I don't know. If she was, she did not deprive him exposure to religion! She was however the dominant influence in his upbringing. Everything you read is speculation, not fact. Only the immediate family knows for sure.

I appreciate your respectful response, and will try my best to remain equally courteous.

Who you love and want to marry should be up to the individuals involved, not the state.

Biggotry knows no boundries, Jew, Hispanic. Italian, Irish, German, Japanese Chinese, Korean, and on and on, have all been discriminated against here. Gay seems to be universal in that they are demonised, yet I have several wonderful friends who are gay that are without a doubt the finest human beings on God's green earth bar none! They deserve respect and equal treatment. One day I pray they will have it!

Fear of something you don't understand is the only reason I can think of to explain this irrational paranoia.
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mac



Joined: 07 Mar 1999
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard--stay away from that pipe, you were occasionally making sense. Now this, is seriously deranged:

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Obama according to the Muslim religion will always be a muslim. He can never convert according to them.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slinky...

9 states now allow same sex marriage and 8 states (including Colorado which just passed it) allow civil unions. 53% (CBS poll) approve of gay marriage. This may be an issue we can leave behind us in a few years. Interesting how attitudes changed on gay marriage after Obama legitimized a change in opinion on the subject.
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keycocker



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epic sailing. I asked boujmaa once about not doing the Mecca thing all day while sailing. I forget but think maybe he is a Coptic.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coboardhead wrote:
53% (CBS poll) approve of gay marriage ... Obama legitimized a change in opinion on the subject.

Cause and effect, I submit.

BTW, Slinky, Obama's Mom and Dad were well-known radical, outspoken, socialist and communist activists, respectively.

As for "Who you love and want to marry should be up to the individuals involved, not the state" ... Only the state can issue state marriage licenses. Who BUT the individual states should decide who is eligible?

The only people I hear demonizing homosexuality are the right fringe biblethumpers. I haven't personally net any of those in decades, except for the Jehova's Witness who knock on my door occasionally. I finally looked up what they stand for, and will ask the next one, "Why does God make gays if they're as evil as you say?".

"To tempt us"

"Oh, so you're tempted by them? Then I hate to break it to you, fella, but ... you're gay."

"BTW, dude, the only potential apocalypse I see coming round the bend is economic."
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beaglebuddy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beaglebuddy knows a few gays, some that even go to his church??? WTF???
Might even be going to a gay wedding, WTH???
Beaglebuddy knows all the Jehovah's Whiteness's here and even let's them into his house to talk story on Saturday morning.
If the communist party comes door to door I'll let them in and talk a while.
Point being you can disagree politically but still still be friends.
Gay marriage, legalized marijuana, I can see it's inevitable but I don't have to agree with it.
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beaglebuddy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Bard--stay away from that pipe, you were occasionally making sense. Now this, is seriously deranged:

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Obama according to the Muslim religion will always be a muslim. He can never convert according to them.

You can quote the muslims with that, not Bard. Take it up with them.
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keycocker



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did ask some Muslims.Did you?
It is not true.
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boggsman1



Joined: 24 Jun 2002
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the newest favorite clown in the clown show known as the Republican party has just disqaulified himself to be be bitch slapped by Hillary in 2016:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/295509-rand-paul-would-have-supported-drone-use-in-hunt-for-marathon-bomber#ixzz2RKFiSOML
First it was Marco, then Christie disqualified himself by being honest(not good if rethug), and now Ron's toddler son has completely reversed himself on his 13 hour grandstand filibuster that won him much accolades from the Tea Party morons. Now they are raging mad....damn it.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How pecious, the Mad Islamic Bomber was interviewed and watched by the FBI, and was receiving welfare, even though he was driving a BMW. He was named after Tamerlan "the sword of islam", yet the FBI didn't blink an eye, AND let him back into our country. Even worse, he's now suspected in the murder of 3 Jewish friends on Septembert 11, 2011. He cut their throats. The incompetence of our govt just keeps getting better.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_got_mass_welfare_benefits

“Bow To Islam” – Tamerlan Tsarnaev named after ‘Tamerlane’ who called himself the Sword of Islam.HT: SunNews.By EzraLevant.

“Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American.” That was the headline on a column of the popular liberal website, Salon, last week.
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