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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you actually think that North Korea is openly inviting representatives from places like Iran when they conduct their nuclear tests and other related escapades? Do you have any real proof from a few credible sources that that kind of thing regularly happens?


Yes, this is no secret. Why would you think that Iran wouldn't be involved in NK nuclear and balistic development? It is no secret.

Meanwhile the idiots are outraged that an agressive reporter was pulled out of the way by Trumps staff.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Meanwhile the idiots are outraged that an agressive reporter was pulled out of the way by Trumps staff.

But she was a woman. Why shouldn't she be allowed to grab a presidential candidate?

Can you imagine what would have happened to her if the SS had gotten to her ... and it was Hillary instead of Trump?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because someone like you says that something is happening, do you think that I just accept it? Again, you have any credible sources that can back up what you've said?

Regarding Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, there have been two recent occasions where he's gotten physical with folks. That's clearly out of line for him to step in where Trump's security folks should be handling such business. However, what's even more problematic is the fact that Trump has tried to weasel around the issue making clearly false statements, and refusing to admonish Corey Lewandowski, like it might ruin his day.

You might want to look the other way about what's been happening, but the media is having a field day with Trump's many missteps and mistakes. A couple more more months of such amateurish gaffes and off-the-cuff commentaries, and Trump isn't going to stand a chance in hell of winning the presidency.

How many women do you think that Trump has turned off in this week's MSNBC town hall when Chris Matthews cornered him? Leave to Trump to make an incredibly stupid statement that he to quickly walk back a couple times in such a lame way. I've heard that current polls show him to now have a 75% disapproval rating amongst women. Moreover, two new polls are even showing Cruz winning Wisconsin. How embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Baja. We'll agree on past errors, but given the situation we in the west now face with the rise of militant Islam (ISIS are just the extreme faction, and has tacit support from very many 'ordinary' Muslims) how do you think we should proceed?

As I see it, appeasement is not an option (taken as a sure sign of weakness) so, as Blair hinted, decisive world action is now necessary. I can see no other clear answer.

You must be aware that the most pressing worry to the security forces is Pakistan, and their nuclear arsenal. They are currently developing small scale tactical nuclear weapons which, if the terrorists could get their hands on them (and that is their undoubted aim) would be perfect for their purposes.

It is clear that the Pakistan regime is at high risk from their considerable lawless terrorist (Islamic) factions, which we know are hell bent on acquiring nuclear capability.

How should we (or CAN we), in your opinion, ensure that such can never happen?


Start a thread on that subject... as we do we migrate in subjects in a discussion, in this case. Blairs wisdom I will never accept again as I would not listen to hitler's. Learn how they were idiots yes, is the main lesson we need to learn from them.

This is not a liberal media issue. The media puts out plenty of hate of religions other than american taliban... Muslims/Islam is well placed/covered in the media as a negative. So another thread for Pakistan with uncontrolled nukes is another major thread. US gives Pakistan ungodly amounts of money specifically because of that.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
swchandler wrote:
Do you actually think that North Korea is openly inviting representatives from places like Iran when they conduct their nuclear tests and other related escapades? Do you have any real proof from a few credible sources that that kind of thing regularly happens?


Yes, this is no secret. Why would you think that Iran wouldn't be involved in NK nuclear and balistic development? It is no secret.

Meanwhile the idiots are outraged that an agressive reporter was pulled out of the way by Trumps staff.


as we know you are the liar of the world. You can not back up your lies. You are welcome to tell your lies to your moron friends, but do not expect a person with a brain to take your ly-in words.

Back up your trash or you are no better than a Stalin, Mao, Putin, Hitler and so on. All of them were/are experts at the big lie and not backing it up.

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"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.

All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not making the front pages.. if i owned the media as a liberal would make this front page to show how corrupt the right wingers are. As they certainly do if a liberal even jaywalks is big news to the right wing media.


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-- A former congressman’s chief of staff was charged with using congressional funds to pay a campaign consultant. The Justice Department last night announced the eight-count indictment of David G. Bowser, who ran the office of Georgia Republican Paul Broun. "Prosecutors allege that Bowser hired a campaign consultant, Brett O’Donnell, and paid him nearly $44,000 in congressional funds," the AP reports. "A well-known Republican debate coach, O’Donnell pleaded guilty last September (for making a false statement) in an ethics case involving Broun. Bowser is also charged with obstructing a congressional investigation into the misuse of funds and with making false statements."

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right wing longest sitting house speaker

it appears there were at least 5 victims. I as a liberal would post it front page... and constantly to show the hypocrisy of the corrupt right wing. Again this moron decided to hold impeachment hearings for a consentual sexual encounter. His were on minors.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-dennis-hastert-sentencing-prosecution-met-20160408-story.html

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Again this moron decided to hold impeachment hearings for a consentual sexual encounter. His were on minors.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-dennis-hastert-sentencing-prosecution-met-20160408-story.html


http://www.alternet.org/are-some-men-born-pedophiles-new-science-says-yes-sexologists-say-not-so-fast

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

again we should have a intelligence test as some right wing idiot on this forum proposed. If so, I make the questions and one should be does torture work? well here is the definitive answer. He would not say this if it had worked.

but lets see if this makes the front pages... with the liberal commentary that is obvious.

Again the top right wingers running for pres are all for waterboarding.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/director-brennan-cia-wont-waterboard-again-even-if-ordered-future-president?cid=eml_mda_20160411

Director Brennan: CIA won’t waterboard again — even if ordered by future president
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CIA Director John Brennan told NBC News in an exclusive interview that his agency will not engage in harsh “enhanced interrogation” practices, including waterboarding, which critics call torture — even if ordered to by a future president.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/09/donald_trumps_disastrous_free_ride_finally_the_new_york_times_commands_the_obvious/

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Donald Trump has been a disaster for political journalists, but he has also been an incredible boon for those of us who teach journalism. Questions of ethics and practice, for instance, particularly in interview situations, are no longer simply academic. They become matters of the moment; students can see, unfolding in real time, the consequences of journalism without a firm professional base, the descent into entertainment of a field whose prime focus is supposed to be information.

Chuck Todd’s phone interview with Trump for “Meet the Press” on November 29, for example, allowed my student to hear Todd pull back from lines of questioning that got too touchy and then humble himself, asking Trump to come on for an in-person interview. The students then debated the responsibility of the journalist when interviewing a subject of continuing interest. Do you ask the hard questions at the risk of losing access to the subject? Or do you back-pedal or toss in a few softballs in order to make the subject comfortable — and available in the future? These questions were suddenly right before them.

If Chuck Todd, one of the most successful journalists in America, feels he has to grovel at the feet of an interviewee, imagine, I asked my students, how a young journalist must feel. Losing access can mean losing a job. Professional ethics and standards have to be jettisoned, many journalists learn, in order to stay in the field. Once the pattern is set at the first rung of the professional ladder, it is not going to change later. Commitment to professionalism disappears.

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