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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nail_Ponder wrote:
Telling yourself the same lies over an over doesn't make it true, it just makes it believable for you. If that's all you've got, twisting half truths to suit your agenda then so be it. Keep on lying, it's all you've got.


Nope, I had given you the opportunity to explain that difference before, Just as I have again asked you to here. I note once again I have given you the clear opportunity to explain a very obvious flaw in what I consider absolute stupid reasoning that is the heart of why I despise your and your right wing religious wacos kinds of stupidity. you can not differentiate your hate theorem and thus it sticks to you.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gee I had sent a letter to my congressman and to schumer basically telling them the same. last week...



I suggested they contact experts not of the military that do not give only the military or Oil industry positions like the Koch brothers who do not want the Iran oil on the market. Hence the think tanks propaganda funded by the Koch brothers.

I told them they should ask people like my father who has PhD in nuclear Physics and was in the military and has always been against proliferation of nuclear weapons even when he was in the military. Obviously the military hated him for his positions. Even later in life he was and is still with concerned scientists advocating reduction in nukes. The Secretary of Energy would even call him when a dem was in office that is, about issues. (most do not know but nuclear weapons also fall under the sec of Energy's responsibility) He was also the lead into Russia after the wall fell for disarmament, he and his groups were the only ones who had studied and planned for decades what do we do if we do ever reduce the nuke levels. He and his group were the ones the Russians trusted to not have a agenda except to do what was needed was disarmament.

Again non-technical people think oh gee once they have enough fuel they have a bomb. because non-technical people never built anything they think it is that easy. But you need to test. Until they test one that works the clock is really not running. And it is very hard to test one and not be known to have tested one. I try to explain to non-tech people this way, have you ever bough a simple electronics kit and soldered it together? Did you know it worked by not testing it? again a simple electronics kit and people can not make it work. Now try doing an advanced project testing is even more important.

anyway here is from the top horses mouths, I know right wingers hate them educated people...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/world/29-us-scientists-praise-iran-nuclear-deal-in-letter-to-obama.html?emc=edit_th_20150809&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=43747607&_r=0



29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama


By WILLIAM J. BROADAUG. 8, 2015

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Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent.

The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement.



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The letter notes criticism that the Iran accord, after 10 years, will let Tehran potentially develop nuclear arms without constraint. “In contrast,” it says, “we find that the deal includes important long-term verification procedures that last until 2040, and others that last indefinitely.”


lets see how much of the media brings this to the front page..

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has hit me why right wingers who have from day one, the day he was inaugurated and met with the goal of stopping Obama their number one priority, vs caring about the USA and all americans. Well here it is, the right wing do not want the Iran agreement because well you are hearing it from me first I believe. They do not want Obama to win another Nobel peace prize.

You know he will receive it... and the right wing for one do not want peace, and two more so they want Obama to not set a record for Nobel peace prizes. Lets see when the media if ever plays that one to americans... They do not want a black man going into the record books for that would they.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baja-human wrote:


Cancellation of 'The Ed Show' silences a progressive voice
August 8, 2015 12:00 AM


after a little reflection I may have a reason why Ed is getting kicked off. He probably has had Bernie Sanders on his show more than any other TV media in the world.

Bernie is a major threat to the right wing owned media.

Here is a good example or so...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/05/1409107/-Bernie-Sanders-introduces-legislation-making-Election-Day-a-National-Holiday

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Bernie Sanders introduces legislation to make Election Day a National Holiday

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Bernie Sanders is taking the fight to restore complete Voting Rights to the republicans. He says that republicans should be ashamed that they have refused to consider legislation to restore parts of the Voting Rights Act that have been gutted since enactment of the act in 1965 in order to preserve their majorities.


http://mediaconfidential.blogspot.mx/2015/08/candidate-sanders-no-fan-of-talk-radio.html
aug 4 2015
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by stating:

Here’s the serious issue: We live in a nation in which to a significant degree media is controlled by large multinational corporations. We live in a nation in which 95 percent of talk radio is right wing, including in areas where Republicans have almost no support.


http://mason.gmu.edu/~cmennell/MediaMonopoly/TheFairnessDoctrine/BernieSanders.html

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Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders says, "Bring back the Fairness Doctrine!"



again what a story and yet the media will not give him equal headline treatment, if I was a liberal owner of the media he would get all he wants, considering his crowds are the largest of any parties gatherings.
WAPO HIGHLIGHTS:
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— “Bernie Sanders, the Capitol’s surging anti-celebrity,” by Karoun Demirjian and Kelsey Snell: “Thousands may flock to Sanders’ rallies outside Washington, but when the Vermont senator rides the subway through the Capitol, he’s usually alone. His Republican colleagues may hunt the limelight of cable-news cameras, but a Sanders’ sighting rarely inspires the same media frenzy…’Bernie’s Bernie,’ said Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-WestVa.), like the name was an explanation in itself. ‘If he had star power, he wouldn’t be Bernie.'

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey if you do not own the media, like defence contractors GE (NBC and MSNBC) did, defence contractor Westinghouse (CBS) did, can media be bought by say the oil industry, tobacco, medical? Or just a trust funder. Can this be true?

WP

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Breitbart staffers believe that Trump has given money to the site in exchange for favorable coverage, BuzzFeed’s McKay Coppins reports: “According to four sources with knowledge of the situation, editors and writers at the [conservative news] outlet have privately complained since at least last year that the company’s top management was allowing Trump to turn Breitbart into his own fan website — using it to hype his political prospects, and attack his enemies. One current editor called the water-carrying ‘despicable’ and ‘embarrassing,’ and said he was told by an executive last year that the company had a financial arrangement with Trump. A second Breitbart staffer said he had heard a similar description of the site’s relationship with the billionaire but didn’t know the details; and a third source at the company said he knew of several instances when managers had overruled editors at Trump’s behest. … Breitbart executive chairman Steve Bannon responded to questions with a statement denying that the company has ever had a ‘financial relationship’ with the candidate.”

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind the quip of Gore Vidal about Buckley:

"always to the right and almost always in the wrong"

Watchwords for the right here.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i a real libral owned the media whenever one of the right wing religious finatics chimes in about destroying education to make it religious education i would remind people of another right wing religious fanatic. Needless to say you do not see this in the right wing owned media do ya..

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Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself.


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Secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith. from our point of view as representatives of the state, we need believing people. A dark cloud threatens from Poland. We have need of soldiers, believing solders. Believing solders are the most valuable ones. They give their all. Therefore we will maintain the confessional schools in order to train believing people through the schools, but this depends upon having truly believing teachers, not by chance Marxists who do not stand fully by their religious faith, as teachers.

-Hitler, [quoted from Helmreich, p.241]


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if they will tie in the PhDs with this and make it headlines in all the media... ya, i think this is a bit important, for people to know front page... can anyone say that the media is liberal if these items are not front page to the people so they know? Or is the media right wing?


hmmm and the right wingers know more than the PhDs and now we have the retired generals and admirals...

I ask that Sen Chuck Schumer retire...

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Three dozen retired generals and admirals released an open letter Tuesday supporting the Iran nuclear deal and urging Congress to do the same.

Calling the agreement “the most effective means currently available to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons,” the letter said that gaining international support for military action against Iran, should that ever become necessary, “would only be possible if we have first given the diplomatic path a chance.”

The release came as Secretary of State John F. Kerry said U.S. allies were “going to look at us and laugh” if the United States were to abandon the deal and then ask them to back a more aggressive posture against Iran.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nail_Ponder wrote:
Telling yourself the same lies over an over doesn't make it true, it just makes it believable for you. If that's all you've got, twisting half truths to suit your agenda then so be it. Keep on lying, it's all you've got.

Oh, I don't know. He seems to have several suckers on his trotline.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
Nail_Ponder wrote:
Telling yourself the same lies over an over doesn't make it true, it just makes it believable for you. If that's all you've got, twisting half truths to suit your agenda then so be it. Keep on lying, it's all you've got.

Oh, I don't know. He seems to have several suckers on his trotline.



glad you have learned enough in your socialistic life to take a selfie....

when a right winger moves his lips all we get is a sucking sound as proven by your selfie.

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