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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17752 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, why am I not surprised that NW posted 52 seconds of a panel discussion that allowed him to stoke his paranoia. And the rest of the story is... |
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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9123 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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NW I read the WSJ every day , it leans hard right. I read George Will,Krauthammer, and all the righty financial columnists whenever they pen anything. Inhaling Drudge and sitting in front of Fox every night does not provide you with much perspective ...If you can handle it ,try reading the NY times once on a while.. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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youwindsurf wrote: | nw30 wrote: | boggsman1 wrote: | nw30 wrote: | If the main stream media was conservative, you would be seeing this vid of the brains behind Obamacare, the intellectual elitist who thinks that the American voters are nothing but a bunch of fools, Jonathan Gruber, all over the place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI
It would be getting as much repeated play as the vid of Romney talking about the 47% (or whatever %'age) of people that didn't pay taxes, so he really didn't care about their vote. That was everywhere, they couldn't play it enough, for weeks!
But with this vid, we get nothing, as if it never existed. |
It was on CNBC all day yesterday.
Its a little different than a presidential candidate saying that 47% of the electorate is a bunch of leeches. NW- keep rolling with the media is out to get you...you wear it well. |
Good, I'm glad somebody else showed it.
But keep trusting big government no matter how much they intentionally lie to you, you wear it well. |
I am curious. Can you name one thing that "big government" has done that has had a direct negative effect on you?
If so, what is it? |
My personal health insurance has gone up about 100% in the last 4 years, most of the increase being in the last 2 years. A direct result of Obamacare and the uptopiate dems that voted for it because they were lied to.
I'd change my policy, but I'm only several months away from going to Medicare, so I'm just sucking it up for now to keep my reasonable deduction. |
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uwindsurf
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 968 Location: Classified
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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nw30 wrote: | youwindsurf wrote: | nw30 wrote: | boggsman1 wrote: | nw30 wrote: | If the main stream media was conservative, you would be seeing this vid of the brains behind Obamacare, the intellectual elitist who thinks that the American voters are nothing but a bunch of fools, Jonathan Gruber, all over the place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI
It would be getting as much repeated play as the vid of Romney talking about the 47% (or whatever %'age) of people that didn't pay taxes, so he really didn't care about their vote. That was everywhere, they couldn't play it enough, for weeks!
But with this vid, we get nothing, as if it never existed. |
It was on CNBC all day yesterday.
Its a little different than a presidential candidate saying that 47% of the electorate is a bunch of leeches. NW- keep rolling with the media is out to get you...you wear it well. |
Good, I'm glad somebody else showed it.
But keep trusting big government no matter how much they intentionally lie to you, you wear it well. |
I am curious. Can you name one thing that "big government" has done that has had a direct negative effect on you?
If so, what is it? |
My personal health insurance has gone up about 100% in the last 4 years, most of the increase being in the last 2 years. A direct result of Obamacare and the uptopiate dems that voted for it because they were lied to.
I'd change my policy, but I'm only several months away from going to Medicare, so I'm just sucking it up for now to keep my reasonable deduction. |
Isn't Medicare run by the big government that you despise and don't trust? |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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NW30,
I don't know about you, but in my experience, health insurance prices have varied over the years, and that it's rare to pay the same rate year to year. I've had some years go up, while in later years come down, and that's with the same insurance company. To blame everything on the ACA is specious and hardly the truth. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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nw30 wrote: | My personal health insurance has gone up about 100% in the last 4 years, most of the increase being in the last 2 years. A direct result of Obamacare and the uptopiate dems that voted for it because they were lied to.
I'd change my policy, but I'm only several months away from going to Medicare, so I'm just sucking it up for now to keep my reasonable deduction. |
You'd better hope you hit Medicare before the next long-planned Ocare premium increase -- the one he knew but lied about -- hits the fan. It ranges from at least another 20% to 40% or more, as subsidies also pull back on schedule. Of course, as you know, the Supreme Court may outlaw subsidies altogether, putting an end to the whole Obamacare farce so we can get on with actually fixing our health care and insurance problems with -- we can only hope -- a much higher ratio of benefit to harm. |
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pueno
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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nitwit30 wrote: | My personal health insurance has gone up about 100% in the last 4 years, most of the increase being in the last 2 years. A direct result of Obamacare... |
And, of course, Obama gets knocked for keeping the health insurance companies from increasing the cost by 200%...
All this time, I thought you LOVED big business and believed they only do good for you.
Silly me.
nitwit30 wrote: | I'd change my policy, but I'm only several months away from going to Medicare, so I'm just sucking it up for now to keep my reasonable deduction. |
What? You're going to become one of those reviled TAKERS, using an obviously socialist government program?
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4166
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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In North Carolina, 350,000 individuals enrolled in Obama Care through the government exchange. 90% are being subsidized. I wonder who will be picking up the tab, the remaining 10%?
And yes, I know the percentages are better in some other states. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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techno900 wrote: | II wonder who will be picking up the tab, the remaining 10%? |
That's how our income tax structure works; why not THIS tax, too? It's all about wealth redistribution, which Obama declared twice in front of the world in his ABC debate as being even more important than the economy. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | nw30 wrote: | My personal health insurance has gone up about 100% in the last 4 years, most of the increase being in the last 2 years. A direct result of Obamacare and the uptopiate dems that voted for it because they were lied to.
I'd change my policy, but I'm only several months away from going to Medicare, so I'm just sucking it up for now to keep my reasonable deduction. |
You'd better hope you hit Medicare before the next long-planned Ocare premium increase -- the one he knew but lied about -- hits the fan. It ranges from at least another 20% to 40% or more, as subsidies also pull back on schedule. Of course, as you know, the Supreme Court may outlaw subsidies altogether, putting an end to the whole Obamacare farce so we can get on with actually fixing our health care and insurance problems with -- we can only hope -- a much higher ratio of benefit to harm. |
Don't I know that, I have a feeling it may just be off to the Twilight Zone, but I'll be finding out soon enough. This whole thing is FUBAR, and it can't be denied, but hopefully changed in a big way. |
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