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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/american-society-police-state-criminalization-militarization

Interesting article from Mother Jones regarding the new American Police State.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard, I have to ask, did you read the linked article? As I recollect, you're the guy advocating drug testing for folks receiving government assistance.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
Bard, I have to ask, did you read the linked article? As I recollect, you're the guy advocating drug testing for folks receiving government assistance.

I wonder if Mikey has to piss in a cup in order to receive his disability check.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pueno wrote:
swchandler wrote:
Bard, I have to ask, did you read the linked article? As I recollect, you're the guy advocating drug testing for folks receiving government assistance.

I wonder if Mikey has to piss in a cup in order to receive his disability check.
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Any time someone gets cash from the government they should piss in a cup. As for the war on drugs, it is ludicrous. They are 2 different matters.
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bajaDean



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the right wing media has been going hog wild on Obama for shaking a mans hand at a funeral..

at least he did not make a comparison to him being a american founding father. Yet the media does not play this up of McCain who was budies with Sadam and the likes before he was against him.

If I owned the media this picture would be front page and also asking us isn't reagun the one who we shoud blame the costs of these ME wars on and the destruction of the world trade center? the trillions we are spending in homeland defense not just the wars. So we have the idot reygun to blame... But note you will not find one media in the US doing this.


Reagan meets with the Taliban 1985 and says, "These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America's founding fathers."

Read more: Reagan meets with the Taliban 1985 and says, "These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America's founding fathers." What are your thoughts on this? | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1763227#ixzz2nGlmvmdB

http://www.sodahead.com/living/ronald-reagan-meets-with-taliban-in-1985/question-2310695/?link=ibaf&q=anyone+remeber+when+reagan+met+with+the+taliban+in+1985

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For all those who Scream Obama is muslim Shut the hell up hes not muslims hes just a liberal christian who isnt Fanatic about his religion like the Right wing bible thumpers and this is comming from a guy who doesnt like obama.

hey look here's President Reagan sitting down with the Taliban and Funding Osama bin laden to fight the soviets when they invaded Afghanistan......... 25 years later Bin laden would cause the 9-11 Terrorist attack

[img]http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/0/1/0/6/6/1/Man-and-Horse-that-Built-Civilization-62580619141.jpeg#Man%20and%20Horse%20that%20Built%20Civilization[/img]

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isobars



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Any time someone gets cash from the government they should piss in a cup.

I've pissed in many a government cup, for both drugs and HIV. I support drug testing in general and especially in any armed forces, including cops ... hell, in ANY job or welfare scenario. An employee owes his "company" his full competence, and a recipient of public funded welfare owes it to his benefactors to spend THEIR money on necessities, not pot (or Play Stations or $100 sneakers.) Showing up at work hung over, let alone high, is a court martial offense where I worked for 20 years.

I read somewhere that drug use among welfare recipients is very rare. I don't believe it, especially considering how many middle and upper class people use drugs.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:

I've pissed in many a government cup...

And now you just piss ON government, the same government that gives you a handout...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
pueno wrote:
swchandler wrote:
Bard, I have to ask, did you read the linked article? As I recollect, you're the guy advocating drug testing for folks receiving government assistance.

I wonder if Mikey has to piss in a cup in order to receive his disability check.
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Any time someone gets cash from the government they should piss in a cup. As for the war on drugs, it is ludicrous. They are 2 different matters.

So, Steve ...are you suggesting that if a mom on welfare, tests positive, she gets no welfare? Wouldn't that mean her kids get no food, and shelter...and for no fault of their own, they get screwed?
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boggsy--they are already screwed. Most of the children in my school who have emotional problems that are barriers to their education are in homes where there is drug abuse or violence. Alcohol manifests exactly the same as hard drugs, and violence almost the same. Those are the kids that Republican policies are leaving even further behind--so we jail them at 3 to ten times the cost.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kids go to a foster home.
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