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isobras



Joined: 17 Jul 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RocRobster wrote:
My understainding was if I make a fuller sail (bagging) it would also cut down on my ability to sail upwind.

Id much rather be over powered and dead tired than no planing all day...

2002-2008 quiver of B to B+ condition sails would make me very happy and it would likely be affordable. I have saved/hidden $500 for that purpose.... I really only need 4.5, 5.5, 6.5 for me and 4.0, 6.0 for the kid.. maybe a 7.5 for the 160liter board to share when the wind is doing nothing...
I expected I'd be in it over 1k by the time we get what we need...

it may sound dumb, but I like the mast foot protector built into the ezzy sail that I have, the others have no way to add the base pad...

I have not padded my mast bottom for decades now, crash very often, and have not damaged a rail or a foot one time in that area.

I don't find sailing "OPd" (relative to the other amateurs, or to sail selection charts, or to conventional wisdom) tiring IF the wind is steady. OTOH, gusty wind can be WORK even if rigged more conservatively.

Sails rigged flatter will point higher and faster, but probably not all that noticeably so unless you're racing a flatter sail to an upwind mark ... presuming you're both planing.

Be careful building a piecemeal quiver. One brand's 5.0 is often another's 4.5. I'd also bias that 5.5 towards 5.2, as gaps are perceived in percentages rather than sq meters. My 5.8 hardly ever got used because going back and forth between my 6.8 and 5.2 was never a problem, and that was 20 years ago. I got out the 5.8 only when the wind blew 5.8 for hours on end.

(I think that was from noon 'til supper on July 17, 1991 at Bingen, fergoodnessakes). Wink
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westender



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Location: Portland / Gorge

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The smooth wind is not on the water. After talking to Kiters and Kite Buggy'ers, the good wind is at 50'.
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isobras



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn. That puts the booms at about 20 feet.
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tweeky



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wind & water were both super smooth at Rooster Rock today... a couple of windsurfers out, quite a few kiteboarders... all in all a very nice day on the water!
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jota



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice - what size sails (and kites for that matter, if you noticed)?
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tweeky



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jota wrote:
Nice - what size sails (and kites for that matter, if you noticed)?


Oh dear... umm, the windsurfers were quite a ways downwind, I'm guessing 5m-6m range? I was on a 10m kite happily powered up... opps! Hey, not my fault the kite siren called me out today!
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CUSalin



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gorge is a GREAT place to sail. Gusty? Certainly at times.

In fact, much of the time, The Gorge is not a place for "easy-breezy." Smile

Your equipment, how it's rigged, and your ability to "read" the wind on water are big factors in learning how to get the most out of it.

The closer you get to mastering these factors, the more you'll get from The Gorge.

CU Salin'

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CUSalin



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tweeky wrote:
Wind & water were both super smooth at Rooster Rock today... a couple of windsurfers out, quite a few kiteboarders... all in all a very nice day on the water!


"Like" Smile

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scottwerden



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would much rather have gusty conditions than the bumpy, chopped-out swell that seems to have prevailed this summer in the gorge. You can rig for gusts, but unless you like to chop hop, not much you can do if the swell is full of psycho chop.
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