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mchaco1



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Naish supercross? Reply with quote

Ive been looking for a board to step down from my 139L, but not as big of a step as the 96L that I have in the garage..I found a Naish Supercross 112L from 2005 locally and was wondering if anyone whos had experience with it could advise me if its a good step. Id like something pretty easy to get out of the water and suitable for windy gorge days (I know its big but Ive been going out on the 139L in 4.0 up so its a good step down) The only thing im worried about is that its a bit to narrow, but for the price(~200) I dont think I could really get anything more modern in that size range. Thoughts?
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Naish supercross? Reply with quote

mchaco1 wrote:
Ive been looking for a board to step down from my 139L, but not as big of a step as the 96L that I have in the garage..I found a Naish Supercross 112L from 2005 locally and was wondering if anyone whos had experience with it could advise me if its a good step. Id like something pretty easy to get out of the water and suitable for windy gorge days (I know its big but Ive been going out on the 139L in 4.0 up so its a good step down) The only thing im worried about is that its a bit to narrow, but for the price(~200) I dont think I could really get anything more modern in that size range. Thoughts?


I've got that board. I thought it was 114l, so mine might be a year older. I think it is a great board for slalom sailing and I have used it many days in the Gorge and Baja on a 6.2 to 7.4. Easy to jibe and tack. But...it is not "loose". It is not a great board for riding swell or light wind waves. I took it to PSC thinking it would be good for light days in the waves. Not at all.

It does O.K. overpowered if you run a smaller wave fin. I'm about 165 lbs. My much lighter wife likes it also for the real light wind days. It is our largest board. If it doesn't work, I kite!

For the money, not a bad choice.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more word of advise...It has a double back footstrap. Use the single, middle, position for learning to get into the straps and jibing.
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mchaco1



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely middle back strap..I forgot to mention Im 6' 200lbs so its still a sinker for me. Ill probably mostly be using it for slalomish activities on heavy wind days and to get used to straps with waves (river waves)
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used to have the 84, now have only the 94.
I think they are less floaty than advertised. My 94 seems barely 86 to me, seeing how my 84 JPFSW floats in comparison. I'm used to narrow boards, so the wider JP doesn't affect my floatation judgement.
Very flat, almost negative tail rocker on both boards, thin wave rails, so locked in ride, good for blasting, not quite for swell riding.
Since I"m older schooled, I like the mast bases forwards on those boards.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaco, how are your waterstarts coming along? Are they a given when you have sufficient power, or still iffy in mid-river terrain even with good power? If the former, what specific problem do you encounter with 90-something liters? Analyzing that may lead to a more optimal solution than throwing volume at the problem. If nothing else, volume and uphaulability can be a crutch; I was too impatient to develop a good waterstart until Oahu's nasty terrain gave me no choice (I had never heard of the Gorge then.)

I ask because your optimism and aggression in this sport are encouraging and suggest the addition of smaller boards to your quiver for windy days with decent wind quality. Understand that I'm not encouraging you to bypass bigger boards; they are invaluable to the learning curve and for merely breezy days or poor wind quality days. However, most 115 liter boards are a bouncy handful in Gorge chop when it's windy. If by windy you include the "standard" 4.5 day, I found 90L Gorge boards felt huge and cumbersome years before I could jibe dry. The day I felt competent to waterstart anywhere on the river when I had good power was the day I dropped below 80L (@ 195#) as long as I was fairly consistently powered up on a 5.2. Sure, my glide through lulls sucked, but in normal currents I gladly preferred their increased terrain compliance over the crutch of endless glide.

Mike \m/
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tombrady3841



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a new Supercross 84L and it sunk like a rock, Iam 175 lb.
Not a good Crissy board, I sold it to a lady, the ladies liked that board at Crissy 6 years or so ago. I took it to the Gorge and I didn't like the feel
( squirrelly ) in high wind even with a small fin. That's when Rob Wymore let me demo an RW I have ridden those ever since. Carbon Blue Fish 90L and 80L Power Surf.
T
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mchaco1



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My waterstarts are pretty solid, I can do them pretty reliably in almost any conditions on my 139L hifly and wind permitting, on the 95L too. Havent gotten the straps yet, mostly due to a lack of decent conditions to practice so far this year. The problem I am having with the 95L is getting it on a plane in less than overpowered conditions and getting back to shore when the wind backs off a bit to non planing since I dont have the floatation. Im big enough that volume doesnt bother me as much, the 139L felt ok last week at mosier on a full powered 4.5. I can do the 95, its just more frustrating than fun (though I usually find that the bigger board feels easier each time I swap back to it). It might be a fin problem too, Im using an older wave fin thats probably not right for what Im doing, it cant go upwind at all and may be part of the planing difficulties. I was going to go pick up the naish tomorrow, but it sold today so thats out anyway...
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jingebritsen



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slotted fins are brakes. need i say more? super cross was a board that needed lots of juice.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jingebritsen wrote:
slotted fins are brakes. need i say more? super cross was a board that needed lots of juice.

Thats what I suspected... time to find a modern US box fin..
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