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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pointster wrote:
Suppose you weigh 160 pounds, and you are going 30 mph when you get catapulted, which takes one second. Using F=MA, where you mass in slugs is about 5, and your acceleration is 44 ft/sec squared, then the total force is 220 pounds, applied at the harness hook. This is horizontal component in direction of motion, but I think it is probably the upper bound.


I don't think so...the acceleration will happen in a far shorter time frame than 1 sec. Unfortunately, in my experience, you don't slow down much until impact with the water! One second is a long long time frame for an impact load.

I should point out that any force your body exerts by smacking the water is relieving the load on the harness lines and boom.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like forever to me..
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rigitrite



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This whole thread is a perfect example of why:
A. Our sport is dying
B. There are so few women interested in it.

We have met the enemey....and they are us.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're implying women dislike science ... a surprise for the many excellent women scientists and engineers I've worked with.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My answer: enough to break a sun and salt bleached harness line. I have broken two (one old and one new) already this season! all from catapults (always while spacing out or looking to tack/gybe before a set). Figure out the breaking strength of a new line at total force has to be at least that!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also know quite a few excellent female Scientists and Engineers, but,
I don't think it's the science, I think it's the geeks women are not attracted
to. So if you wanna attract women, I recommend you keep your geek
in the closet, and just rig for them. ;*)

-Craig

isobars wrote:
You're implying women dislike science ... a surprise for the many excellent women scientists and engineers I've worked with.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You're implying women dislike science ... a surprise for the many excellent women scientists and engineers I've worked with.


Oh look, there goes the point.....you missed it.

I'm broadly implying that even engineery-chicks roll their eyes at guys like you, and take up kiting instead.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you consider starting windsurfing if you saw this chick magnet?


After reading this thread I’m seriously thinking about quitting windsurfing...



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whitevan01



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take issue with the title of this thread. It should be windsurfing physics. In any event, everyone has been estimating the average force and average acceleration. Actually, instantaneous acceleration in the middle of the collision can be much greater.

also, it not actually the acceleration that hurts a person, it's the collision. During a collision, the force starts out small then builds up to a maximum value and then diminishes. I am also assuming an elastic as opposed to an inelastic collision as long as the person doesn't get mushed so much that they end up sticking to the board or sail like a piece of gum or clay.

Finally, what really hurts is the rate of change of acceleration which is known as shock or jerk. To put this in perspective, velocity is the rate of change of position, acceleration is the rate of change of velocity, and shock or jerk is the rate of change of accleration. So, even if peak acceleration is not extremely high (10g's would be extremely high for a human), if the rate of change of acceleration is high then one is in for some pain.

Think basilar skull fractures like what killed Dale Earnhardt Sr. at Daytona a few years ago.

Just keep in mind that one can't get hurt in the air, it's only when one lands that one gets hurt.

one more quick point, the original post described getting "pulled off" one's board. It all depends on the frame of reference, but relative to the earth, what really happens is that the board stops and the human and rig keep going due to their momentum.
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