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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a comedy act. I don't pretend to understand particle physics; quantum mechanics was hard enough. But Bard hears about the "god" particle, googles something that he doesn't understand and puts it up here. The Fickster works hard to not listen to anything that anyone "liberal" might say for fear it might aggravate all of his work related injuries.

Conservatism in a nutshell. Surgery is required to remove your head from where the light doesn't shine. What we need now is some outrage from Roc that God blessed this country, or from mrgybe about how harlots get what is coming to them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
You are a rock star Roc!

They don't understand that with big govt, eventually you get big corrupt egos. The founders were humbled by God, and it was the basis for all our freedoms. The tyranny has always come from the left, who then had to become tyranical to maintain their power. The first thing Hitler did was to blame the Jews (rich folks today). This helped seal the deal for "the National Socialist German Workers' Party" to eventually steal all power from the people.

I fear the Black Jack Boots of yesterday are the green hiking boots of today.


Bard, you butchered your swipe at those who vote differently than you. In case you never knew or forgot in your "proof" that people more left-leaning than you are the source of tyranny by using Hitler as an example, please recall that Nazi fascism was fed by anti-Semetic rhetoric and policies. The Jews were blamed for the things so that Hitler and his horrible followers could define a scape goat. This tyranny came from the right, not the left.

To wit, this gem from the 1920 platform of the Nazi party a.k.a. National-Socialist (Nazi) German Workers Party, one year after Hitler became party leader and 13 years before they took control in the Reichstag:

"The Party as such stands for positive Christianity, without associating itself with any particular denomination. It fights against the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a permanent revival of our Nation can be achieved only from within, on the basis of Public Interest before Private Interest."

The rest of the platform discusses xenophobic planks as well as the honest desire to gain a sense of national dignity after the reparations of WW I.

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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanWeiss wrote:
Bard, you butchered your swipe at those who vote differently than you.

Just like you butchered the quote "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds". It isn't. Consistency is an admirable quality and one that is essential to many disciplines. However "Foolish consistency etc, etc..........the actual quote.........is a less attractive quality. Repeatedly proclaiming that views which are to the right of yours, have absolutely no merit, and equating those who hold them with Nazi's would be a good example of foolish consistency.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Surgery is required to remove your head from where the light doesn't shine.

Most of those guys have glass navels installed so they can see where they're going.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A foolish pedantry again rears it's head. Oh that those with bookmarks to "accuratequotes.com" were as careful with the integrity of their own postings as they are eager to score points against others.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgybe wrote:
[...] Repeatedly proclaiming that views which are to the right of yours, have absolutely no merit, and equating those who hold them with Nazi's would be a good example of foolish consistency.


Well, Dan did not write: "the Black Jack Boots of yesterday are the green hiking boots of today."

It seems your aim is a little off here...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hitler wanted to be rid of the Jews because they were educated, effective, liberals with money, who were not easy to fool with right wing propaganda. Or left wing either.
They were not all the same party, like Jewish people today, but they shared the above traits which made them an obstruction to all who would mislead the people, left or right.

The most collectible Nazi posters are from the first days and depict happy white Germans Moms and kids holding hands and playing.
They say Nazi slogans like

"Protect the Family"

In the Bush era there was a German website that predicted each move made by of President Rove and his Congress by quoting Nazi history.
My German is weak but it was so accurate ( and controversial ) it got coverage in the German press.
Stuff like:
- Hitler planned to attack Poland long before he was in power so he did.
Rove has long been planning to attack Iraq so he will.

- Hitler showed a newly minted strong support for Christians because he intended to slaughter another religious group he hated.
Some, but not all, of those folks believed him. He enlisted some of those Christians in civilian deaths with ease as a result.


--Bush will likely show a new found strong support for Christians because he wants to kill a different religious group.
Some, but not all, of those folks will believed him.
He will enlisted some of those Christians in civilian Muslim deaths with ease as a result.

The stuff was hard for me to read in German but chilling in the early 2000s

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/92/Nazi_poster.jpg/200px-Nazi_poster.jpg
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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talking of hobgoblins.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be filed under Bizarre Stuff, even though this kind of thing will get more common.

http://wtvr.com/2012/08/23/brandon-raub-judge-orders-release-of-detained-marine-veteran-freed/

Note at the end they say the U.S. Government Kidnappers DID find him to have a form of psychosis... as if they have credibility!
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RocRobster wrote:
To be filed under Bizarre Stuff, even though this kind of thing will get more common.

http://wtvr.com/2012/08/23/brandon-raub-judge-orders-release-of-detained-marine-veteran-freed/

Note at the end they say the U.S. Government Kidnappers DID find him to have a form of psychosis... as if they have credibility!


His psychosis was, he didn't agree with Obama. This kind of stuff is just the beginning.

Happy New Year: Obama Can Now Use the Military to Arrest You, Detain You Indefinitely-And Without Probable Cause or Due Process
Bill: “National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.”

The Miltary can come into your home, place of business, or where ever you are without a warrant; the Military can then take you into custody without an arrest warrant, without producing any probable cause, and without any other form of due process; and the Military can then take you anywhere in the world and detain you forever without legal representation… All the President has to say is that you are a terrorist suspect! End of story, end of you!

Several of us were screaming bloody murder, maybe literally, when Bush pushed and got the Patriot Act passed by a Republican Congress. It was bad enough to expand domestic and foreign surveillance to the point US citizens could be the target of wire taps or other means of electronic surveillance with only a single judge reviewing the application for the snoop job. The threshold for obtaining a FISA warrant under the Patriot Act was thin at best. But, this new law, which vastly expands Executive autocratic powers against average US citizens, has shredded 235 years of Constitutional Government and eliminated all forms of controls on the Government by the People. Now it is Government by the Government, For the Government.

Obama had his lackies in the administration float the lie that he opposed giving these sweeping powers to the President and that Obama would veto the bill. This turned out to be a complete lie as Carl Levin, a DEMOCRAT spilled the beans and said that Obama insisted on having this language in the bill. Plausible deniability, not quite! This is an overt attempt to give the President total control over US Citizens. How many detained citizens would it take before everyone began to fear that they two would be imprisoned if they did not accept all of the Dictates of Obama? 10, 100, 1000?

You may say that this is the United States and that could not happen here! Think again. This same erosion of personal freedom always precedes the rise of a dictator. This same erosion of personal freedom is always AGREED TO by the people either directly or through their elected officials. Better wake up now, it may be too late!
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