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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha Ha Boggs and Pueno, I do enjoy Savage, however, respect for the natural beauty and environment is one thing. Using it and healthcare as a pretense for taking away personal responsibility and initiative is another.

Mac, very little is understood about the origin of the universe, or the cosmos. They can't even cure your hemeroids Mac. How can science explain anything about the mechanics of the universe?
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard--not surprised you seem to miss the word "some." Only the information you want to believe seems to get in.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
...very little is understood about the origin of the universe, or the cosmos. They can't even cure your hemeroids Mac. How can science explain anything about the mechanics of the universe?

And that's the wonder and beauty of science. If we had nothing left to study and discover, then life would be dull and boring. Those who are dull and bored sit around reading -- some read the Bible, others read Superman comics.

But fortunately, we have meaningful problems to solve and interesting puzzles to study.

It's so much better to be learning stuff from science than memorizing fairy tales from an ancient book.

So, tell me, Bard, what are the four basic forces of nature? And what do we know about them? (Hint: Guilt, sex, and mothers-in-law are not on the list.)
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The strong interaction is very strong, but very short-ranged. It acts only over ranges of order 10-13 centimeters and is responsible for holding the nuclei of atoms together. It is basically attractive, but can be effectively repulsive in some circumstances.

The electromagnetic force causes electric and magnetic effects such as the repulsion between like electrical charges or the interaction of bar magnets. It is long-ranged, but much weaker than the strong force. It can be attractive or repulsive, and acts only between pieces of matter carrying electrical charge.

The weak force is responsible for radioactive decay and neutrino interactions. It has a very short range and, as its name indicates, it is very weak.

The gravitational force is weak, but very long ranged. Furthermore, it is always attractive, and acts between any two pieces of matter in the Universe since mass is its source.
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However

The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?.
Higgs boson
One possible signature of a Higgs boson from a simulated collision between two protons. It decays almost immediately into two jets of hadrons and two electrons, visible as lines.[Note 1]
Composition Elementary particle
Statistics Bosonic
The Higgs boson or Higgs particle is a proposed elementary particle in the Standard Model of particle physics. The Higgs boson's existence would have profound importance in particle physics because it would prove the existence of the hypothetical Higgs field—the simplest[4] of several proposed mechanisms for the breaking of electroweak symmetry, and the means by which elementary particles acquire mass.[Note 3] The leading explanation is that a field exists that has non-zero strength everywhere—even in otherwise empty space—and that particles acquire mass when interacting with this so-called Higgs field. If this theory is true, a matching particle—the smallest possible excitation of the Higgs field—should also exist and be detectable, providing a crucial test of the theory. Consequently, it has been the target of a long search in particle physics.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notes:
- Info posted above not available in Bible.
-No part of science denies religion except of the crackpot religion -or science- variety.


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pueno



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
The strong interaction is very strong, but very short-ranged. It acts only over ranges of order 10-13 centimeters and is responsible for holding the nuclei of atoms together. It is basically attractive, but can be effectively repulsive in some circumstances.

The electromagnetic force causes electric and magnetic effects such as the repulsion between like electrical charges or the interaction of bar magnets. It is long-ranged, but much weaker than the strong force. It can be attractive or repulsive, and acts only between pieces of matter carrying electrical charge.

The weak force is responsible for radioactive decay and neutrino interactions. It has a very short range and, as its name indicates, it is very weak.

The gravitational force is weak, but very long ranged. Furthermore, it is always attractive, and acts between any two pieces of matter in the Universe since mass is its source.
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Congratulations; pretty good paraphrase of something you found on Wikipedia or some clown's blog.

But some of what you regurgitated here is wrong...... which means you don't really understand.

What do these forces do?

And--more important--what causes them?
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isobras



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RocRobster wrote:
You two are like 12 years old.. right?

If so, they're the upperclassmen on my PLONK list.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pueno wrote:
stevenbard wrote:
The strong interaction is very strong, but very short-ranged. It acts only over ranges of order 10-13 centimeters and is responsible for holding the nuclei of atoms together. It is basically attractive, but can be effectively repulsive in some circumstances.

The electromagnetic force causes electric and magnetic effects such as the repulsion between like electrical charges or the interaction of bar magnets. It is long-ranged, but much weaker than the strong force. It can be attractive or repulsive, and acts only between pieces of matter carrying electrical charge.

The weak force is responsible for radioactive decay and neutrino interactions. It has a very short range and, as its name indicates, it is very weak.

The gravitational force is weak, but very long ranged. Furthermore, it is always attractive, and acts between any two pieces of matter in the Universe since mass is its source.
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Congratulations; pretty good paraphrase of something you found on Wikipedia or some clown's blog.

But some of what you regurgitated here is wrong...... which means you don't really understand.

What do these forces do?

And--more important--what causes them?


Copy and paste job, really.
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/forces.html

If Bard doesn't know anything, it's because doesn't want to know anything.

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pueno



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

feuser wrote:

If Bard doesn't know anything, it's because doesn't want to know anything.

It just underscores my point --- lots of talk with zero knowledge, zero substance. His are like talking points that he scrounged from somewhere.

Perhaps Mr. Bard could research the Bible. Supposedly, it has all the answers....

I'm sure the Higgs boson is mentioned somewhere in Deuteronomy, although they called that particle the Moses boson because it had non-symmetrical wave properties.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobras wrote:

If so, they're the upperclassmen on my PLONK list.

I'm not sure which is funnier -- Mr. Disability or his fantasy plonk list. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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