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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pissing off catholics was not a good idea, but I am glad it happened. Anything to rid this country of obama I support 100 percent.

Can you imagine if we were forcing muslim istitutions to perform things againt their beliefs. You libs would defend them to your last breath.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pissing off women might be a worse strategy for the repubs. I know it's something I avoid...
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty, are you missing the fact that folks vote in private.

Despite what the Catholic church might boldly demand, I think that we all know that Catholic parishioners these days have to decide more pragmatically about having children and assuming the responsibility for them. Given the fact that you have kids and need to provide for them, I'm thinking that you might recognize that.

If you can move past your prejudices regarding President Obama, you might be able to see some merit to the idea of contraception in modern times. Who really cares what the Council of Catholic Bishops think? You know, when it comes to election time, I think that the majority of women in this country could really care less.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coboardhead wrote:
If a hospital wants to be the big provider in a region, they better be willing to supply all of the health care needs for that population or get out of the market so someone else can.
I can't understand why someone so clearly in favor of violating the law is so unwilling to admit it. It's just like people strongly espousing socialist or Marxist or Evangelical principles complaining when they're referred to as socialists or Marxists or Evangelicals; it rings hollow.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be a little more interesting if Mike actually read some of the material to know what the arguments are. Razz
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feuser



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
It might be a little more interesting if Mike actually read some of the material to know what the arguments are. Razz


Yup.

And the next idiot who uses the words Marxist and socialist without having a clue gets a one way ticket in my time machine. Destination: East Berlin, around 1984. That should clear things up...

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pueno



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

feuser wrote:

And the next idiot who uses the words Marxist and socialist without having a clue...

That's just why those who say that, say that..... because almost nobody really understands, and so the words sounds impressive, high-brow, ominous, and scary all at the same time.

...mostly from Fox 'n Limbaugh...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
Pissing off catholics was not a good idea, but I am glad it happened. Anything to rid this country of obama I support 100 percent.

Can you imagine if we were forcing muslim istitutions to perform things againt their beliefs. You libs would defend them to your last breath.

Good Point matty. If it were Muslim Institutions at question, would you and Rush Limberger still have your panties in a wad?
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you agree boggs, you libs would defend a muslim institution under similar circumstances.
Just a little reminder, most hispanics are catholic and deeply religious. This will absolutely hurt
the moron obama. But then again as long as we are talking about issues like this , instead his pathetic record, advantage barry.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that cut and dry. It seems that both sides of the argument have merit. If it were a Muslim Institution, would you be defending it? BTW- I live in California, in a town that is 1/2 hispanic, I'm well aware of their committment to Catholicism, and I can tell you with great confidence, that they will not be voting for Mittens under ANY circumstance. The white shoes, Hedge Funder is not that appealing to the Hispanic community.
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