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windsurfperson



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Please help me choose a board Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
I'm a beginner, I only had 1 lesson about 2 years ago. I was able to uphaul the sail, tack, go upwind easily but I had a beginner dragger board with a small sail. I don't know which board or sail. I'm about 5'10, weigh about 155 pounds, and I have done other water sports so although I'm a complete beginner at windsurfing, I think I should be able to learn relatively fast.

Here is the problem, the wind here is quite light and gusty (often 10 knots and less), so I need a board that has enough volume and length to glide in light wind. But I live in an apartment and I don't have enough place to put a huge board. The max length I can have here is 250cm. So that does not seem to leave me much choice. I can't find many boarsd that are shorter than 250cm and that have a dragger fin, do I need it absolutely? And what is the minimum volume I need to be able to uphaul the sail?

I have absolutely no idea if there is any board that fit my criteria. What do you guys think about the JP Super Light Wind? It looks like an intermediate or advanced board right? But it's made for light wind, it's short, wide, it has 154L volume, can a beginner learn on this even though there is no dragger fin? Can I uphaul a big sail on such board?

Thank you in advance for your help! Smile


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the funster 160? It's longer than 250cm at 258cm, but maybe I could manage with something a little bit longer.

Another option is the Star Board Go 151, which is 254 cm and the Star Board Kode 137 which is 247 cm. I think I can add a dagger fin to both of these boards. But I'm not sure about their light wind performance? By light wind I mean 10 knots and under. And could I uphaul my sail on these boards, especially the Kode?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't get the JP superlightwind. It's a specialized board for more advanced windsurfers that is expensive and fragile.

Something with a padded deck and a daggerboard, like the Starboard GO or START would be good. I wouldn't go smaller than 150 liters, and more liters would be better.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At your level and with predominantly light winds I would definitely get a board with daggerboard. I've taught thousands of people around your level and it will make a huge difference. After 30+ years of sailing i'll still grab a board with daggerboard n light winds. If you can find room for an extra 10cm, consider the RRD EasyRide S. It's 260cm and 166l and just right for someone your weight and your skill level in your conditions.
http://www.robertoriccidesigns.com/equipment/index.php/windsurfing/easyride/easyride-s-softskin.html
If you'd rather start with slightly more volume, the EasyRide M is the same length but a bit wider and has 180l.
http://www.robertoriccidesigns.com/equipment/index.php/windsurfing/easyride/easyride-m-softskin.html

Tony

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed about what's the right type of board as those above. kona one is hard to beat for what you are dealing with. does well in light winds with a dagger down, and better when the wind is up and the board can plane.

http://www.konaone.com/Page.aspx?Id=2

http://cascadeclimbers.com/gear/general/product/Exocet-Kona-One-Style-Windsurfing-Board-220.html

http://cascadeclimbers.com/gear/general/product/Exocet-Kona-One-Style-Windsurfing-Board-220.html

www.kona-windsurfing.com/forum/read.asp?ID=256 - Cached

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you wanted "glide" in light wind, people recommended long boards with dagger boards, which is the way to go, but does not fit your size requirements. With shorter than 260, you can only go the short but wide route. These boards don't really glide, they chug in light winds--- but a few companies made such boards with removable center fins or dagger boards. Starboard Rio, Bic Nova 165 (my choice, check it out), a couple of others. dhmark
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windsurfperson



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

antonius wrote:
At your level and with predominantly light winds I would definitely get a board with daggerboard. I've taught thousands of people around your level and it will make a huge difference. After 30+ years of sailing i'll still grab a board with daggerboard n light winds. If you can find room for an extra 10cm, consider the RRD EasyRide S. It's 260cm and 166l and just right for someone your weight and your skill level in your conditions.
http://www.robertoriccidesigns.com/equipment/index.php/windsurfing/easyride/easyride-s-softskin.html
If you'd rather start with slightly more volume, the EasyRide M is the same length but a bit wider and has 180l.
http://www.robertoriccidesigns.com/equipment/index.php/windsurfing/easyride/easyride-m-softskin.html

Tony


OK thanks for the advice, now I know I will need a daggerboard for my level and wind conditions. I was wondering if you think it would be better to go for a 180L? I see that it can handle bigger sails, wouldn't it be better for light wind?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhmark wrote:
Since you wanted "glide" in light wind, people recommended long boards with dagger boards, which is the way to go, but does not fit your size requirements. With shorter than 260, you can only go the short but wide route. These boards don't really glide, they chug in light winds--- but a few companies made such boards with removable center fins or dagger boards. Starboard Rio, Bic Nova 165 (my choice, check it out), a couple of others. dhmark


Ok so if I understand correctly, in order to "glide" in lightwind, I will need a long board, something like the Kona One which is 350 cm long. If I go 260 cm or shorter, whatever my choice, it will "chug". So what is, approximately, the minimum length I would need to somewhat "glide" in light wind?

And in your opinion, would a board like the StarBoard Go 151 (154cm) could be somewhat enjoyable in light wind or is it way too short?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

short means no fore and aft stability as well as no glide, nor upwind ease when not planing. short typically assumes that one can plane for most of the windsurfing experience. years ago, we had not much choice for planing optional long boards. the ones like the kona one are a very good one board solution. 330 + is best imho.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure there is much in between. To me, the short wide route is simply a way to build up the skill set in order to plane. It is enjoyable and challenging to learn on these boards, but eventually nobody "enjoys" nonplaning sailing on a wide board. If you had visions of cruising around on a big body of water all around on light wind days after you've got some skills, the short wide will disappoint. If you eventually want to just sail planing (and will get the big sails/mast/boom to handle it in light winds), then the short wide is fine. Short wide works for me to teach my kids (w/ center fin) and light wind planing for me (w/o center fin). dhmark
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