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dukgyb
Joined: 14 May 1996 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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windsurfing crissy without a wetsuit is simply reckless to the individual. More importantly it is a thoughtless risk for all of our continued sailing at crissy. We have no inherent right to sail off crissy. Indeed numerous regulations and agencies have opposed our access. We enjoy sailing the best place in the world only because of the efforts of several individuals and the SFBSA. The blogs document many locations with unacceptable restrictions. We are especially beholding to the good graces of the United States Coastguard. The need to rescue a reckless sailor is not favorable for us. The need to recover the body would be unthinkable. The NPS does not like that publicity. Excusing this because he is "good at it" is ludicrous. You should not be sailing crissy unless your good at it. |
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pirireis
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 177
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I guess there are two sides to this story. If one is happy with the risks and lives his life free, who are we to judge?
The other side of the coin is that a human life is valuable. If one were to stand on top of the GG and threaten to jump, there would be police and rescue teams involved whether the individual liked it or not.
I am not sure where personal freedoms begin and end, and where safety comes in. In this case clearly the danger is only to ones self.
I guess people Rock climb without equipment. Being free and with the mountain is the driving factor. In that regard, since we don't go out of our way to stop Rock Climbers who climb with no equipment but a bag of chalk, maybe there is already precedent and that we should not judge here.
Following this logic, I end up with the conclusion that Deven has the full right to enjoy Crissy whichever way he sails.
Except I would ask that he carry a Radio, so he could call in rescue for others and self in moment of need. Thus his freedom's are fulfilled but the community also gets something back. |
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windoggi
Joined: 22 Feb 2002 Posts: 2743
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veterduet
Joined: 29 Jun 2000 Posts: 268
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: "Naked Guy" |
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Agree with Kevin - have seen him at Candlestick fairly often. It does beg for some Polish jokes. How many Poles does it take to rig a sail? Three - two to bend the mast and one to thread the downhaul.
(OK, I'm Russian - Take your best shot!) |
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pirireis
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 177
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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windoggie wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICBrXUuwvgg |
Hey windoggie, that is pretty cool. I have noticed that most climbers are very fit and thin. They must be burning a lot of calories |
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faradroka1
Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 216 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: |
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windoggie wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICBrXUuwvgg |
<ironyAlert> at :54 he straps on a seat belt. </ironyAlert> |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:27 am Post subject: |
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windoggie wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICBrXUuwvgg |
Windoggie, you a climber? I came from a climbing town, and unfortunately I saw a couple of horrible accidents. They make seeing a cold hard swimmer floating face down seem tame.
I'm one of the few who have seen both. IMO both outcomes are uneccesary, and difficult for the survivors.
I used a naked dead guy as a jibe bouy for about 30 minutes here in Malibu a few years back. I thought his ass sticking out of the water was a bouy......until I took a closer look. (I'm a little near sighted)
Young guys who die doing foolish things don't understand the effect they have on their families.
At least wear a shorty and a rash guard. You might last 2 hours. |
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Mulekick84
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 407
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Young guys who die doing foolish things don't understand the effect they have on their families. |
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!!! Johnny, show Steven what he's won behind door number 1!!
That video was 3 years ago. Is this guy still around? |
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human_catapult
Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 374
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Deven admittedly makes me nervous sometimes too, but I do wonder about that statement of "everyone can get hypothermia". On extremely cold days I tease him all the time about not wearing a wetsuit. He usually does (on those days).
What about these guys who do lots of long distance swims in SF bay with NO wetsuits?
http://www.dolphinclub.org/big_swims.html
what gives? What's the medical explanation? |
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spanker_jeep
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 404 Location: Outer Richmond District.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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He's Polish? |
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