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GURGLETROUSERS
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Over here we call them champagne socialists Techno (i.e. pigs with snouts in the trough) who tell the poor they are one of them! |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Denial is truly amazing on the far right. One coherent question, by Techno:
Quote: | Is it your assumption that there are more wealthy conservatives than liberals? |
No, the fact is that the far right has, for the past twenty years, adopted policies that favor accumulation of wealth among those that already have it. No doubt about it. They have sold those policies to conservative people by scapegoating the hapless and minorities, and pushing social conservative buttons like gay and abortion rights. If you really think the GOP is not the party of the rich, show us some evidence.
The incoherence of the religious right in ignoring the plight of the poor to favor accumulation of wealth can only be subject for sarcasm. You have to laugh or you would cry. Particularly with ultra rich Mitt now saying he cares about the 47%. |
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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: |
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techno900 wrote: | mac, In that study, did it break out the percentages of liberals and conservatives in the "wealthy" group? I guess not. Is it your assumption that there are more wealthy conservatives than liberals? Quote: | Do not admit any weaknesses in the rich and conservative |
Or are wealthy liberals polite and wealthy conservatives impolite?
A truly strange post and follow up.
Maybe just a California study which may make some sense. |
I do think the evidence would certainly suggest there are more wealthy Republicans than Democrats...I'm not sure of the numbers when you use labels like conservative or liberal. Mitt crushed Obama in the over 100k crowd 56-44. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Eeew:
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Wasn't this what Democrats stood for in the past?
Sen. Rand Paul will oppose—very publicly—the nomination of U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch to replace Eric Holder as Attorney General of the United States.
The Kentucky Republican is unveiling his opposition to Lynch on Greta Van Susteren’s On The Record program on Fox News.
Earlier Wednesday, in his office in the Russell Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill, Breitbart News watched as the senator’s legal and press team briefed him final time before the interview. Sergio Gor, Paul’s communications director, his press secretary Eleanor May and attorney Brian Darling were all present.
Paul asked the team about Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) question during Lynch’s Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing about whether she’d oppose using a drone to kill an American citizen on American soil.
When Paul heard about her non-answer—she wouldn’t commit that the federal government does not have such authority—he was incredulous. Furthermore, Paul was appalled that Lynch came out in favor of President Barack Obama’s executive amnesty and the use of asset forfeiture—where the federal government seizes people’s property sometimes with flimsy reasoning, something even the Obama administration has offered slight opposition to—and then told his office staff he’s going to oppose her and aim to derail her nomination chances. “Oh, she’s going down,” Paul said to the room.
“I think ideally you want an attorney general who, if there were a problem, would be independent and objective looking at the executive branch,” Paul said in a previous interview with Breitbart News this past weekend aboard a flight to Dallas, Texas, where he had several speaking engagements and publicly welcomed Texas GOP chairman Steve Munisteri to his likely 2016 presidential campaign.
That’s kind of what you want an attorney general to do. I’m concerned that a big part of her fame as a federal prosecutor was through civil forfeiture. She was asked specifically about this by Sen. Lee, and her response was ‘oh, everything is fine, it’s done with a court order.’ She seems to not quite understand that innocent people are having their stuff taken by government–their cars, their money, their hotels, their stuff is being confiscated by government even if they’re never charged or even if they’re never convicted. She didn’t seem to grasp that point and this is a week after parts of the administration said they were not going to enforce some of the civil forfeiture.
Paul added that while “that alone”–Lynch’s position on civil forfeiture–would be enough for him to oppose her nomination, her position on Obama’s executive amnesty was even more troubling.
“The separation of powers is probably the most important underpinning of our constitutional system,” Paul said last week. “If her position is that the executive branch can write laws or amend laws, that would be a real problem with me.”
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uwindsurf
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 968 Location: Classified
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Be more specific. Paul said a number of things in the piece you cited. Why is it all underlined? |
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DanWeiss
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 2296 Location: Connecticut, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes, Thom Tillis. He despises a regulation that forces employees to wash hands and employers to post signs telling employees to wash hands. Now, he wants to force employers to create new signs informing customers that it no longer forces employees to wash hands.
There's nothing honest about Tillis's blather. He suggests he's against regulation but just substituted one for another! _________________ Support Your Sport. Join US Windsurfing!
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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“Oh, she’s going down,” Paul said to the room.
Senator Rand Paul has proven to be a bit of a nut case in the past, and it seems that he wants to continue the trend. Why would he make such a petty and biased announcement to the room? Maybe he should have flipped her the "bird" too.
Raising the idea of the executive branch using a drone to kill Americans on our own soil is a bit off the top don't you think? Given the fact that the Attorney General and the Department of Justice is a facet of the executive branch, the thought that Rand expects the AG to be a lapdog to the whims and gyrations of a Republican Congress is laughable. I'm thinking that Rand has forgotten that a clear majority of the American people elected President Obama to lead the country.
It is getting pretty clear to me that the Republican party is failing right out of the gate to show any real leadership qualities or reflect the ability to work constructively for the American people. Trying to kill the ACA for the 56th time predictably reflects their dedication to wasting time and energy at our expense. I have no doubt that the next two years will continue to highlight just how mixed up and ineffective the Republican party is. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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His stance on drones is about the only thing about Rand Paul that makes any sense. Add in his commentary about science in general--and his stellar medical credentials (hah!) and you have the poster child for batshit conservatives. |
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swchandler
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I find it more than puzzling that Republicans are quick to criticize the Obama Administration for using drones in our effort to deal with terrorists, yet they are over eager to bomb the crap out of many Muslim nations. While I must admit that Senator Rand isn't a hawk supporting US military escapades around the world, he pretty much stands alone from his more traditional war hungry Republican comrades. With such an adamant isolationist world view, the guy doesn't stand a chance to become the Republican nominee for president in 2016. |
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