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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Someone took out Iranian nuke plant Reply with quote

It looks like some unidentified large agency or nation used extremely sophisticated malware to shut down one of Iran's nuclear plants.

On the flip side, this cyberweapon could be used to freeze or even destroy any nuclear plant.

It's going to be interesting to watch this news unfold.
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NickB



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... or not.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Ill cancel my plans to surf , SUP, and drink beer in Bolinas this weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gather you underestimate both its regional and global implications. This could earth-shaking news if it's true.

The world's best military and diplomatic minds are (were?) stymied about how to stop Iran from going nuclear and fulfilling its promise to take out Israel, which could easily lead to regional and global nuclear war (this isn't TR; it's military science combined with treaties our nation must honor). Israel had to attack very soon to stop Iran in time, but are likely to fail if Iran has sufficiently spread, concealed, and/or hardened its nuclear facilities. Even the U.S. may be unable to militarily take out Iran's nuclear weapon facilities (Obama promised he would do that if necessary to keep Iran from from going nuclear) if Russia blows off U.S. pressure and sells Iran its S-300 AA missile. Has Israel waited this long because they were forewarned of -- or maybe even produced -- this cyberweapon capability? Has Ahmadinejad been deliberately trying to goad Israel into attacking so he can glassify Israel in "self-defense"? If so, and if Israel did this, once again David may have slain Goliath with a pebble ... rather, a scalpel. Has the free world employed hackers to do what its military and political might cannot: stop or even prevent some wars bloodlessly? Can this weapon also melt down or even blow up a nuclear facility? Are ours at risk? Can it shut down computer-controlled manufacturing on a national scale (our manufacturing juggernaut won WW II)?

Politics is bullshit; this may turn out to be fascinating ... if it's not a false alarm.

Mike
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NickB



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
... if it's not a false alarm.


Exactly. Or it might get even more interesting if the author(s) and the target(s) are not at all what the western media thinks they are. Or if this is a subtly crafted strategy by some obscure group pushing to police the internets even more...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only obscure group I know of trying to police, or even develop the capability and authority to shut down, the internet is the U.S. government.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah well maybe the Iranians chose Unix as their OS in which case this isn't a problem. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpbassking wrote:
Yeah well maybe the Iranians chose Unix as their OS in which case this isn't a problem. Wink


Oh, yea? You don't need to run NT i order to royally F(&% yourself:


Code:
for i in $(ls /dev/* ); do echo "oops, there goes $i - i am so screwed"; done

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

feuser wrote:
jpbassking wrote:
Yeah well maybe the Iranians chose Unix as their OS in which case this isn't a problem. Wink


Oh, yea? You don't need to run NT i order to royally F(&% yourself:


Code:
for i in $(ls /dev/* ); do echo "oops, there goes $i - i am so screwed"; done


They must have killed the porn sites too?
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a weapon would be just as effective as the LOVE virus was on the CIA.
Hint-Their computers with vital info are not online.
After that virus missed me too,I bought a new computer and use my old one for internet and my new one for everything else.
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