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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: lets be Fwank, Barney Reply with quote

I guess those billionaires pull lots of strings!!!!!

This could bring Barney to his knees ( pun intended )



http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1288443
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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't approve of the gay jab, but as for "a free private jet to the Virgin Islands courtesy of a Maine congresswoman’s billionaire fiance" ... a military or civil servant government employee would be prosecuted for accepting as much as a free expensive lunch.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My physician wife cannot even accept a pen from a pharma company!
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Barney Frank's credit, he apparently brought the anticipated trip to the attention of the House Ethics Committee and got a clearance from them. That's makes things a bit different than if he did it under the table.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coboardhead wrote:
My physician wife cannot even accept a pen from a pharma company!


In a few years she won't even be able to accept a penny for all her hard work and education. I doubt that money was her motivation, but Doctors, soldiers, job creators are generally not happy with government regulation, socialism, and high taxes. Many doctors and job creators will not work under these new rules. Some have already fled.
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You like the current lieutenant governor flying around on the oil companies dime?
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevenbard:

I'll tell you what.

If you would like to start a new topic that can begin with showing that physicians are bailing out of medicine in large numbers because of the HC plan with some real data, I would love to see it.

I believe an informed discussion (free of sound bites) on how a moderate, married to a physician, can support this plan would be a great topic.

I am not going to go through this, if it will just end in name calling. I'll give it a shot if you will!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.favstocks.com/medicare-implodes-doctors-opt-out-of-medicare-at-alarming-rate-fountain-of-youth-sought/1914085/

http://getbetterhealth.com/primary-care-doctors-and-the-medicare-boycott/2010.06.02

Rationing is the only outcome from adding 50 million people to the system, while lowering dotors pay, and losing doctors.

Many are not as altruistic as we might think.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And because of the new law...

http://www.nwcn.com/news/States-largest-insurer-warns-of-rising-rates-104821569.html

http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2010/10/04/bish1007.htm
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feuser



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
And because of the new law...

http://www.nwcn.com/news/States-largest-insurer-warns-of-rising-rates-104821569.html



Did you actually read the article before you posted?

Quote:
If they're angry and confused - it's easy to understand," said Washington Insurance Commissioner Mike Kreidler, who has fielded more than 100 angry calls since Regence mailed its letter two weeks ago.
Kreidler says the letter makes it appear that healthcare reform is to blame, when in truth Regence has made a huge policy change that makes premiums for children much more expensive.

"It has absolutely nothing to do with health care reform. It has a great deal to do with how Regence is rescheduling its business and it would have happened with or without heath care reform," said Kreidler.
Nilssen's current plan, where he pays one rate regardless of the number of children, is being cancelled by Regence. Now he'll have to pay a premium for each child.

A Regence spokesperson would not appear on camera, but points out that rates for people without children could go down under these new policies.

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