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skyhigh



Joined: 21 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: just an observation Reply with quote

I've been sailing the Gorge since 83' and the wind has seemed to change. In the 80s and 90s it would blow from morning til nite now it seems the switch can turn off at any time. Ungorge like??
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iacmoderator



Joined: 23 Sep 2000
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Gorge changes Reply with quote

15 years ago I used to be able to sail in the gorge all day for weeks on end. Now when I sail for more than a few hours I tend to get very sore and need to take a day off. Do you think this is due to global warming?
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ericandholly



Joined: 20 Jun 1999
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the 80's and 90's I used to sail from 8 am until dark. Now I kite from 11 am until 5--June/July/August
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Shredder33



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: silting of the river bottom Reply with quote

I would bet that all in all the gorge is more choppy on the sides due to silting. Doug's is the best example of this, that place breaks me down. Thinking that the river has only been damed for a few decades, it's easy to think that things are constantly changing on the bottom, it's probable only going to get flatter and choppier. Also ocean currents change and that affects the whole summer, sometime it's really windy sometime it blows every day moderately. in a nut shell every year is different! Makes for an interesting ride. Today was good at the hatch though!
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WMP



Joined: 30 May 2000
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: silting of the river bottom Reply with quote

shredder33 wrote:
the gorge is more choppy on the sides due to silting.



Yep, swell quality / quantity has certainly changed as well as wind quality / quantity.... it's all fading away like the postal service. I remember swell at Maryhill back in the early 80's was unbelievably jumbo sized all the time.... that's what brought me to the Gorge. Now, it's mostly psycho chop.

Army Corp of Engineers has had the Dam water level so high past couple years that it's eroded away much of the shoreline.... all that silt is filling in the bottom of the river, changing the character of swell at all our sailing sites.


Then we've got the growing populations on both sides of the Cascades... changing the dynamics of diverse temperatures and thus changing the characteristics of the wind patterns.

I don't think the Gorge will ever be the same.... the mid 90's was truly the end of an era.

- WMP
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hilton08



Joined: 02 Apr 2000
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gorge is still windy.

16 days in a row of West winds over 20 by my calculations.

Gusting over 40 at Doug's right now.

Does anyone else need a day off?
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WMP



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no question that it's still "windy" here in the Gorge.... the observation of the OP was simply that the wind has "changed". Also came the observation that swell has "changed" as well.
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GuyT



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about windsurfing in the 90's, but sure thing, disco music sucked and inspired the worst board graphics ever. Please guys, get rid of that "old school" stuff and fluo wetsuits that we still see around. Wink

The wind, this year? For me, 25 days wind stretch (June 19 to July 13), 2 days break and than another 15 days stretch. Can't complain.
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ldhr



Joined: 10 Apr 2000
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wind has not changed - your windsurfing equipment has changed.
In the 90's we had gear designed in the gorge by people who lived here everyday.l We had sails and boards specifically designed for the gusty conditions.
We had Hurricanes, Northwaves, Rushwind, Sailworks, Gorge Sails.
Dill, O.O., Cascade, Zephyr, Eric Shroeder, Preister Built, Bailey.
They're all gone now and you're sailing on stuff designed for Japan and Hawaii.
With the new sails you hit a ramp, jump high,,,, and then fall like a rock.
Also - these sails don't have the low-end to glide thru the lulls.
Solution: If you think things were better in the 90's, upgrade your gear to stuff that's designed and built by Gorge sailors.
Rig big and stop whining.
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