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What did Bush know, and when did he know it?
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject: What did Bush know, and when did he know it? Reply with quote

From the London Times on April 9, but little coverage in this country:
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George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld covered up that hundreds of innocent men were sent to the Guantánamo Bay prison camp because they feared that releasing them would harm the push for war in Iraq and the broader War on Terror, according to a new document obtained by The Times.

The accusations were made by Lawrence Wilkerson, a top aide to Colin Powell, the former Republican Secretary of State, in a signed declaration to support a lawsuit filed by a Guantánamo detainee. It is the first time that such allegations have been made by a senior member of the Bush Administration.

Colonel Wilkerson, who was General Powell’s chief of staff when he ran the State Department, was most critical of Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld. He claimed that the former Vice-President and Defence Secretary knew that the majority of the initial 742 detainees sent to Guantánamo in 2002 were innocent but believed that it was “politically impossible to release them”.


And then from Brigadier General Patrick Finnegan of West Point, in the letters to the editor of the New Yorker, May 3. Citing Petraeus:

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...such abusive techniques are "nonbiodegradable...the enemy continues to beat you with them like a stick." He's right--the Pictures from Abu Ghraib and the publicity surrounding Guantanamo, waterboarding, and other "enhanced interrogation techniues" have created far more terrorists than most people understand.


It is interesting that the founding fathers put civilians in charge of the military because of their fear of a military dictatorship. It worked pretty well, until Bush, Cheney and crew, when the dictatorship impulses came from the civilians, and it was brave men in the military who blew the whistle on their lawlessness.
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windoggie



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bush's Brain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK6IdWTodV4&feature=player_embedded

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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd best worry about the current Marxist in the WH, who sends secret service and national guard troops to tea party protests.

He supports the oligarchy mega corporations instead of letting them fail. Goldman Sachs and Aig and GM. Meanwhile Bill Gates, Buffet, and Soros will never pay taxes because they've put all their money into trusts that they still control.

GWBush was an idiot, but it is best to forget about him anyway. Obama won't do anything about him either because he and his buddies are too busy putting their money into the new "Chicago Carbon Exchange". Look that one up and see who already owns this new scam to skim money off the top from American Consumers.

Change THEY can count on.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Bard, are you drifting on airhead themes without any depth?

Regarding the tea party folks, it's a good idea to keep an eye on those folks. As we know with the anti-abortion folks, there are those crazy ones that are literally off the top. The American people can't, and shouldn't tolerate terrorists and traitors in our midst. Better safe than sorry.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bard. You cant call Obama a Marxist, and blast him for aiding Goldman, the ultimate capitalism machine, at the same time. Unless you are trying to tie your brain in a knot.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just the 1st step into Marxism. Take control of the economy and then hire more burocrats...and pay them more than the citizens.
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DanWeiss



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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, the slippery slope argument. When you have nothing left, it's a great one to pull out since nobody can really argue non-causal, future events.

Brilliant, professor.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...then hire more burocrats..."

"burocrat"? Maybe Bard can shed some light on what that is.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
"...then hire more burocrats..."

"burocrat"? Maybe Bard can shed some light on what that is.


A burro-crat is a democratic symbol of sloth and gluttony, as opposed to a bureaucrat who produces nothing, but skims our tax $ to pay for their own lavish lifestyles that replicate those fat cat democratic donors like Soros, Buffett, and Gates.

Federal salaries are doubling every 5 years, yet they produce nothing. All they do is mandate, sit on their asses and wait for retirement.

BTW, Soros, Buffett and Gates don't pay taxes. BUT THE SMALL AND MEDIUM SIZE BUSINESS MEN DO.

The number of federal workers earning six-figure salaries has exploded during the recession, according to a USA TODAY analysis of federal salary data.
Federal employees making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% of civil servants during the recession's first 18 months — and that's before overtime pay and bonuses are counted.

Federal workers are enjoying an extraordinary boom time — in pay and hiring — during a recession that has cost 7.3 million jobs in the private sector.

The highest-paid federal employees are doing best of all on salary increases. Defense Department civilian employees earning $150,000 or more increased from 1,868 in December 2007 to 10,100 in June 2009, the most recent figure available.

When the recession started, the Transportation Department had only one person earning a salary of $170,000 or more. Eighteen months later, 1,690 employees had salaries above $170,000.

Wake up and forget your ideologies....You should be angry about this...
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go ahead and blast away at Soros, Gates, and Buffet, Bardman. I will idolize all three, because I like money. You seem to be terribly conflicted in your bong induced methodology. Stop hanging out with Spiccoli, down there in Malibu.
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