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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgybe wrote:
windoggie wrote:
What disrespect? What did I miss?


Boggy sees what he wants to see..........this is from today's London Times:

Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'


For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Mr Obama walked out of his meeting with Mr Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a US congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

Mr Obama then suggested that Mr Netanyahu and his staff stay at the White House to consider his proposals so that if he changed his mind he could inform the President right away. “I’m still around,” the daily newspaper Yediot Aharonot quoted Mr Obama as saying. “Let me know if there is anything new.”

With the atmosphere so soured by the end of the evening, the Israelis decided that they could not trust the telephone line they had been lent for their consultations. Mr Netanyahu and Ehud Barak, his Defence Minister, went to the Israeli Embassy to ensure that the Americans were not listening in.



I'll leave you to decide whether this is "nothing" as Boggsy suggest.


With the police in Israel saying that Netanyahu should be indicted for bribery, I thought I should remind you right wing loonies of your love for this crook, as opposed to the one currently in the White House.

Do you guys love all crooks, or just ignore their crimes?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46417300

I know that when Trump and members of is family are indicted for crooked finances with his foundation. The three stooges will howl.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talking of corruption in Foundations, in March 2017, the Oracle wrote:

mrgybe wrote:
Let's be patient and see how donations to the Clinton Foundation since the election stack up against those in the years that Hillary was SOS and running for President. If the donation levels and sources are similar. then suspicions about buying favors will prove to be unfounded. If donations nosedive, or are no longer sourced from special interests, then the sneering dismissals of suggestions of conflicts of interest will be seen for what they are.


Total Contributions and Grants per Clinton Foundation Annual Reports:

2012 - $226million

2013 - $291million

2014 - $332million

2015 - $293million

2016 - $217million

2017 - $ 26million


https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/annual-financial-reports
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Netanyahu is falsely accused? Nonsense and diversion. Some things never change.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a ps about gybe’s repeat performance as spin meister. He has insinuated that the Clinton Foundation is equivalent to the Trump Foundation. Not so. The Trump Foundation is actively under investigation by the State of New York, and the head is cooperating with investigators. There are ample reported irregularities, including self dealing, to conclude that the family is in deep dutch.

In the past, mrgybe made much of Charity Navigator’s ratings of the Clinton Foundation. Of course he spun it. Here’s there rating: https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.history&orgid=16680

In contrast, the Trump Foundation is rated high concern by Charity Navigator. Check it out yourself:

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.history&orgid=16764

As usual, mrgybe invents new ways of avoiding truthfulness.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's an interesting article in the New Yorker--which won't be read by those allergic to analysis outside of loyal red sources. It focuses on Alabama's refusal to expand Medicare--and the impact on cervical cancer in particular. The take home message is that poor women are dying unnecessarily because Alabama refused to expand coverage under the ACA. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/04/06/a-preventable-cancer-is-on-the-rise-in-alabama

A couple of quotes:


Quote:
Cervical cancer is now viewed by most physicians as preventable, and in more affluent parts of the country it is correspondingly rare. But in the poorer pockets of less wealthy states it remains disturbingly common. According to the American Cancer Society, more than four thousand women in this country will die from the disease this year. Women who develop cervical cancer in Alabama are more likely to die than their counterparts in any other state—and in recent years Alabama’s mortality rate has been rising.


According to a study conducted by David Becker, an economist at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, expanding Medicaid would by now have cost Alabama seven hundred and seventy-one million dollars—a figure that reflects both treatment costs and administrative expenses. But Becker calculated that, even with the federal matching rate for new Medicaid enrollees starting to fall in 2017, these costs would be more than offset by folding existing state programs into Medicaid, and also by levying taxes on the billions of Medicaid dollars spent in Alabama. Indeed, he believed that expanding Medicaid would generate a net surplus of nine hundred and thirty-five million dollars...

“In Alabama, we have one of the highest maternal-mortality rates in the country,” Jennifer Pierce told me. “It is more lethal to be black and pregnant in Alabama than in some poor countries.”


What is true for cervical cancer is also true for many cases of heart disease, diabetes, and other cancers. Failing to organize a health care system on prevention, and organizing it around profit on a pay for treatment basis, increases costs and has poorer outcomes. That's before we get to the question of big pharmacy and their investment in campaign contributions. Not to mention the investment of politicians in big pharma.

This is all relevant now in facing the issues of treating Covid-19 patients who have lost their insurance, or weren't insured. Trump has made some statements about covering the medical costs of patients, although the recent bill only covers tests, not treatment. But it has never been clearer that the failure to treat--or when we get a vaccine, prevent--disease represents a threat to the rest of us. Far more people will die in this country from COVID than all of the wars since World War II--yet our military spending is hundreds of times greater than that for public health. After 12 years of partisan attacks on the ACA, the GOP has still not come up with any alternative, and Trump attacks the constitutionality of the ACA before the Supreme Court.

Not to worry, some will pooh pooh the threat. I wonder how they make their money?
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