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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
mac wrote:
NW has discovered one of the short term phenomena that affect climate. Short term. What web site sent it to you--and do you think it has an impact on long term climate change?

Yep, I like to look outside of the doom box supposedly built by humans.


well that one is not made by humans, idiot. I know way past your low IQ30. launching of many nukes is manmade daaa. without a reasonable reason stopping people from choosing to get away from oil and coal type emissions is like saying we should just dump materials like pcbs into the water to dispose of them. Just stupidity.

again the tump people just said all coal companies, in essence, are not responsible even for dumping waste into the water supply.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did somebody just post something here? I thought I heard somebody pounding on their keyboard, I must have been mistaken, it was just a garbage truck driving by outside.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
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NW has discovered one of the short term phenomena that affect climate. Short term. What web site sent it to you--and do you think it has an impact on long term climate change?

Yep, I like to look outside of the doom box supposedly built by humans.


Wonít give his source for who ginned him up, so poorly informed he thinks he has a gotcha. Sad indeed.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the garbage truck was done for today, what a racket out there!

Source, it's there.
Sorry if you think this science study doesn't fit into your template of fear, but it does, you have the fear of volcanoes, so there is something in there for everybody, even you. But I know, it must be frustrating that you can't legislate rules for eruptions, those fuck everything up.
This wasn't directed at you or anybody, so don't feel so threatened, there are other studies out there whether you like it or not.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/10/05/will-trump-crush-us-solar-power-new-tariffs-industry-already-shaking/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IM-cleantechnica+%28CleanTechnica%29

Will Trump Crush US Solar Power With New Tariffs? Industry Already Shaking

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s Trump about to crush the US solar industry? He has a new tool to do exactly that if he chooses to use it. One of the joys of globalization is that some faceless, unelected bureaucrat in a galaxy far, far away can override the sovereignty of a nation in order to protect the profits of other anonymous people hiding out in corporate boardrooms around the world.

Globalization is all about profits over people and it has worked its nefarious magic brilliantly over the past 3 decades or so. Now it may have handed #FakePresident Trump the power to blow up the solar power revolution in America by placing burdensome new tariffs on imported solar cells. Will the blithering scumbag with the orange hair do that to protect his pals in the fossil fuel industry? In a New York minute, friends.

Hereís the backstory we laid out a few weeks ago. Last spring, Suniva ó which makes solar panels in Georgia and Michigan ó filed for bankruptcy. Nine days later, it filed a complaint with the International Trade Commission alleging that it could not compete with cheap solar cells imported from China. SolarWorld, another solar panel manufacturer located in Oregon, joined in the petition to the ITC.

American Corporations That Arenít

Now, are you sitting down? Because it turns out Suniva is not an American corporation at all. It is owned by Shunfeng International Clean Energy which is based in Hong Kong. With the aid of Google Maps, one can quickly determine that Hong Kong is in China. SolarWorld is also not an American company. It is a division of a German manufacturer.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, weather's been great this month. Just like fall
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

real-human wrote:
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/10/05/will-trump-crush-us-solar-power-new-tariffs-industry-already-shaking/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IM-cleantechnica+%28CleanTechnica%29

Will Trump Crush US Solar Power With New Tariffs? Industry Already Shaking

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s Trump about to crush the US solar industry? He has a new tool to do exactly that if he chooses to use it. One of the joys of globalization is that some faceless, unelected bureaucrat in a galaxy far, far away can override the sovereignty of a nation in order to protect the profits of other anonymous people hiding out in corporate boardrooms around the world.

Globalization is all about profits over people and it has worked its nefarious magic brilliantly over the past 3 decades or so. Now it may have handed #FakePresident Trump the power to blow up the solar power revolution in America by placing burdensome new tariffs on imported solar cells. Will the blithering scumbag with the orange hair do that to protect his pals in the fossil fuel industry? In a New York minute, friends.

Hereís the backstory we laid out a few weeks ago. Last spring, Suniva ó which makes solar panels in Georgia and Michigan ó filed for bankruptcy. Nine days later, it filed a complaint with the International Trade Commission alleging that it could not compete with cheap solar cells imported from China. SolarWorld, another solar panel manufacturer located in Oregon, joined in the petition to the ITC.

American Corporations That Arenít

Now, are you sitting down? Because it turns out Suniva is not an American corporation at all. It is owned by Shunfeng International Clean Energy which is based in Hong Kong. With the aid of Google Maps, one can quickly determine that Hong Kong is in China. SolarWorld is also not an American company. It is a division of a German manufacturer.

It might crush US residential, but it will give companies like First Solar, one of the only legit US manufacturers a clear edge.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've known for a long time- 100 years?--that volcanic eruptions can affect climate in the short term. News to NW.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is really good as a recap: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/climate/what-is-climate-change.html?_r=0
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH!
MY!
GOD!

1. THE OCEANS WILL RISE THREE FRIGGING FEET!

2. GREENLAND'S FIORDS ARE MUCH DEEPER THAN PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED, ALLOWING THE ICE TO BE WARMED FROM BELOW BY OCEAN CURRENTS!

These are findings by NASA's Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) program, which sounds highly encouraging to objective students of AGWA(larmism). Why? Because:
1. According to NASA it will take a millennium -- ONE THOUSAND YEARS -- to raise the ocean one meter. That's countless nuclear wars and EMPs away; nobody's going to be alive to give a damn.

2. NASA attributes the fiord depths to eons of cooling and warming and glacial growth and recession ... WHICH MANKIND SURVIVED JUST FINE, thank you very much.

Sorry, science politicizers, but NASA once again shot down yet another barrel of AGWA bullshit, according to that bastion of conservatism, the Washington Post, which labeled those highly encouraging findings as "worrying". Well, SURE ... they put another nail in the AGWA coffin.
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