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swchandler



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...so called "science" is bought and paid for by the government."

"...I have an MBA. I understand modeling and statistics pretty well. Garbage in, garbage out."


So that's what an MBA thinks about science? I can tell that you're a guy that has never really worked with scientists and engineers on anything substantial.

You only have to look at what been done in government supported civil space innovation, development and engineering over the last 40-50 years to realize the advancements that have been made, and how that affects our daily lives. You need to open your mind a bit to see beyond goofy talking points contrived by folks that don't see any value in scientific development, and the role that the government plays in making things happen.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:


You only have to look at what been done in government supported civil space innovation, development and engineering over the last 40-50 years to realize the advancements that have been made, and how that affects our daily lives. You need to open your mind a bit to see beyond goofy talking points contrived by folks that don't see any value in scientific development, and the role that the government plays in making things happen.

Hopefully you aren't assuming that all those advancements have been made without any mistakes or reassessments along the way.
It's never been a straight line of success, and never will be, error has always been part of the equation.
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nw30



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, something else that doesn't fit the template of the climate of fear.
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Ocean Oddities: Long Lost Irish Beach Comes Back
After three decades of a sheer stone shore, sand returns to an Emerald Isle island.

By Chris Borg
Published:May 12, 2017

In the winter of 1984, a series of severe Atlantic swells scoured the shores of Dooagh Beach on Achill Island, Ireland. By the time the stormy surf subsided, the previously sandy beach had been stripped down to bedrock as bare as the blarney stone. Every speck of sand and each bit of grit was washed away by the tumultuous waves. For the next 33 years, Dooagh Beach remained a sand-free zone, with not enough grit to coat a single sheet of sandpaper or make the smallest sandcastle.

Because the ocean is in constant motion, so is the sand. Every wave that reaches the beach moves some sand. Tiny waves disturb less than a teaspoon of grains, while giant waves dredge up enough grit to overflow a dump truck.

As spent surf slides back down the sloped beach and re-enters the ocean, the clash of outbound water and inbound waves create longshore (side-shore) currents. That river embedded in the breakers flows along the coastline and transports more sand. The combined hydrological action leads to a daily displacement of countless tons of finely ground grit around the sea's periphery.

Where all that sand winds up significantly impacts surf quality. The distribution of sand underlying the surf zone helps determine how and where waves break, and it can make or break a beachbreak. Even on days that have identical swell, winds and tides, changing contours in the sand can result in surf that ranges anywhere from nearly unridable to almost epic.

Sand which is further up on the beach and normally beyond the reach of waves also drifts about. While wet sand sticks together and resists being moved by the wind, dry grains of sand don't have that cohesive support so they can be easily blown around by a stiff breeze. Such wind driven sand (eolian distribution) may accumulate into large dunes which stretch out along the length of a beach. These natural barriers help to protect coastal areas during times of unusually strong surf, surge, and high tides.

When the forces of waves, winds, currents and tides all act in unison and push in the same direction, massive amounts of sand can be moved. For the first time in over three decades, that is just what happened last month, April 2017, at Achill Island. For about eight days in April, the combined powers of ocean and atmosphere drove thousands of tons of shiny clean sand onto Dooagh Beach, transforming the barren stone shore back into a beautiful golden beach. 

Irish eyes were smiling to see the return of their long absent sand. Tourists were pleased too since they were now able to sunbath on the cushy soft sand instead of a hard stone slab. Kids were the happiest of all because they were the first children in a generation that could once again make sandcastles on Dooagh Beach. As for surfers and swimmers, they were advised to be cautious, since the same confluence of forces that brought back the sand might also generate some strange currents along the shore.

Due to ever-shifting sand, our shorelines are continuously changing. Usually, the changes are too subtle to see but sometimes they can be quite dramatic, and make the difference between a beach and no beach at all.

http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/after-three-decades-of-a-sheer-stone-shore-sand-returns-to-an-emerald-isle-island-ocean-oddities-long-lost-iri_147259/
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

! Yes!
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

! Yes!
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mac



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the LA Times:

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Amina Khan

The effects of rising oceans on coastal flooding may be even worse than we thought. Scientists have found that a mere 10 to 20 centimeters of sea-level rise — which is expected by 2050 — will more than double the frequency of serious flooding events in many parts of the globe, including along the California coastline.
The findings, described in Scientific Reports, highlight the environmental and economic impacts of sea-level rise on coastal areas, and the need to properly predict and prepare for these effects.

As global warming marches onward and land-ice reserves continue to melt into the seas — thanks in large part to human-produced greenhouse gases — oceans are continuing their upward creep.

Researchers have long made global-scale estimates of sea-level rise and analyzed what effects the ocean’s ascent will have on coastal erosion, on the environment and on human communities. Those estimates have taken into account storm surge and tidal fluctuations, among other variables. But they haven’t included a crucial factor: waves.


If you want to see how bad it might be, and what is melting more rapidly than the models predicted, https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/18/climate/antarctica-ice-melt-climate-change-flood.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

Or you can put your head in the sand--and not see the water coming. I know where Malibu's head will be--when it is not kissing Trump's ass.
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real-human



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UBS: Chevy Bolt Powertrain $4,600 Cheaper Than Thought, Tesla Model 3 Likely To Be Profitable

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/05/20/ubs-chevy-bolt-drivetrain-4600-cheaper-thought-tesla-model-3-likely-profitable/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IM-cleantechnica+%28CleanTechnica%29

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Analysts for UBS have torn apart a perfectly good Chevy Bolt to see how it is put together. What they found led them to make this rather startling announcement: the “total cost of consumer ownership [of electric cars] can reach parity with combustion engines from 2018.” Notice that doesn’t mean an electric car and a conventional car will cost the same to buy new. It means they will cost the same to own, figuring in maintenance, cost of fuel, insurance, and all the other factors that are part of the total cost of ownership.

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice concept... But the estimated price by the authors seems way off.

http://newatlas.com/energy-on-demand-redox-home-electricity-generation-storage-system/49568/

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is global cooling when trumps so called wife slaps his hand for even trying to hold hers.

Now that was darn cold.... I could feel the chill .... global cooling to the max


hahaha again remember he was taped with his wanting to jump on that chick and all other and entitled pussy grabbing while married to her. 20-30 females came out that he sexually assaulted them, most/many while he was married to her. The lady that filed suit with three witnesses and sworn affidavits that Trump raped her when she was 13 years old, Trump never filed a counterclaim.... And that was at his good friend a convicted pedophile with 60 cases of child rape. And to top it off he brags about going into the back room of the Miss Teen dressing room as a peeping tom.

Now would you want anything to do with such a sexual predator? other than taking her money she is owed from such a low life.

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nw30



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn Dean, you'll go anywhere to post Trump sex talk, you should go to the windsurfing general thread also. And then post it under windsurfing classifieds, but don't stop there, you also have the regional windsurfing sections also!
Don't be an amateur! Get on it, you lazy slacky.
Not to mention the rest of the world wide web. Some people never learn.
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