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KGB-NP
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mac
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The facts are so inconvenient:
| Quote: | Scientists released this year's so-called Arctic Report Card on Tuesday, and it is a dismal one.
Researchers say the Arctic continues to warm up at rates they call "astonishing." They presented their findings at the American Geophysical Union's fall meeting in San Francisco.
"The Arctic as a whole is warming at least twice as fast as the rest of the planet," says Jeremy Mathis, climate scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and one of the report card's authors.
The cause of the warming is in part due to a feedback loop unique to the Arctic's northern climate. Normally, the region stays cool because snow and ice reflect a lot of sunlight back into space. But warmer temperatures are melting that snow and ice. The melting snow exposes darker ground and water that absorb more of the sun's heat. That makes the Arctic warm up even faste |
So let's appoint a group of people to the cabinet who have made a living lying about global warming and start a witch hunt to try to find any scientists that aren't working for big carbon. The loser president--by 2.8 million votes. Say it aloud, he's a loser. |
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nw30
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| mac wrote: | | The loser president--by 2.8 million votes. Say it aloud, he's a loser. |
No, I'll leave that to you and all the other unhinged people who don't understand, and probably never will. |
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mac
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Get your mind around minority president and constant investigations for conflict of interest and crimes:
2.8 million more votes:
| Quote: | REAL-TIME NEWS FROM AL.COM
Clinton's popular vote lead over Trump tops 2.8 million; could 'faithless electors' swing results?
By Leada Gore | lgore@al.com
Hillary Clinton's popular vote lead over President-elect Donald Trump has topped 2.8 million, the most recent figures show.
Clinton received 65,756,948 votes, or 48 percent, to Trump's 62,913,088, or 46 percent, according to tracking by Cook Political Report. Other candidates combined for slightly more than 7.7 million votes.
Trump won the White House, however, with 306 Electoral College votes from 30 states compared to Clinton's 232 from 20. A candidate must garner 270 Electoral College votes to win the election, and Trump's victories in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania pushed the business-mogul-turned-politician over the threshold. |
Couldn't have done it without Comey and voter suppression. And you think you have a mandate. Say it again, loser. |
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nw30
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So the fuck what, it still doesn't matter, most all of those extra votes probably came from Ca. and N.Y. only anyway, but I guess that doesn't mean a damn thing to you.
What a simpleton. |
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mrgybe
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To move away for a second from the incessant whining, name calling, denial and excuses from the left in their attempts to rationalize the countrywide rejection of their dogma........a report that came out a week or so ago, sheds some light on the wisdom of those here, and those in high office, who make misleading statements and uninformed judgments about so-called "green" energy.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161129005678/en/Arthur-D.-%E2%80%9CThe-True-Economic-Environmental-Costs
The study examined the full life cycle of battery powered vehicles versus those powered by internal combustion engines. In summary, the greenhouse gas emissions over the life of a BEV are between 19% and 23% less than an ICEV.........worth having, but hardly the "zero emissions" touted by Tesla and the like. The cost of those modest gains are enormous. Cost of ownership of a BEV is between 44% and 60% greater than an equivalent ICEV. This despite the fact that manufacturers are hugely under-pricing their EVs. Even worse, the toxicity of BEVs is three times greater than ICEVs.
So, "enlightened" policies to massively increase the numbers of electric vehicles, are actually significantly worsening the toxic impact of vehicle transportation. Once again, a government mandate that achieves the reverse of its stated goal. |
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jp5
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"countrywide rejection of their dogma"
Oh gee...I'm sorry was that your dogma I just ran over? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! |
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mac
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| mrgybe wrote: | To move away for a second from the incessant whining, name calling, denial and excuses from the left in their attempts to rationalize the countrywide rejection of their dogma........a report that came out a week or so ago, sheds some light on the wisdom of those here, and those in high office, who make misleading statements and uninformed judgments about so-called "green" energy.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161129005678/en/Arthur-D.-%E2%80%9CThe-True-Economic-Environmental-Costs
The study examined the full life cycle of battery powered vehicles versus those powered by internal combustion engines. In summary, the greenhouse gas emissions over the life of a BEV are between 19% and 23% less than an ICEV.........worth having, but hardly the "zero emissions" touted by Tesla and the like. The cost of those modest gains are enormous. Cost of ownership of a BEV is between 44% and 60% greater than an equivalent ICEV. This despite the fact that manufacturers are hugely under-pricing their EVs. Even worse, the toxicity of BEVs is three times greater than ICEVs.
So, "enlightened" policies to massively increase the numbers of electric vehicles, are actually significantly worsening the toxic impact of vehicle transportation. Once again, a government mandate that achieves the reverse of its stated goal. |
The article says that there are no easy answers, more precisely "the complex environmental reality of BEVs will continue to present challenges for the sustainability-minded consumer in choosing whether to drive a BEV or an ICEV."
That must justify lying about climate change. Reasoning in a world that has abandoned critical thinking and is besotted by 140 character messages from the Donald. Commander in Thief. |
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mrgybe
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| A serious study from a credible source. Berkeley's response.........more insults. Poor old fella. |
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techno900
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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mac said: | Quote: | | That must justify lying about climate change. Reasoning in a world that has abandoned critical thinking and is besotted by 140 character messages from the Donald. Commander in Thief. |
Since he has no rebuttal for mrgyb's interesting post, he seems to be compelled (much like baja), to get in the final word, even if it's off in left field (no pun intended, but clever nevertheless). |
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