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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/29/the-sea-levels-are-now-reducing-in-the-hotspots-of-acceleration-of-washington-and-new-york/

Guest essay by Giordano Bruno

Hopefully everybody remember Sallenger’s “hot spots” of sea level acceleration along the East Coast of the US.

Asbury H. Sallenger Jr, Kara S. Doran & Peter A. Howd, Hotspot of accelerated sea-level rise on the Atlantic coast of North America, Nature Climate Change 2, 884–888 (2012), doi:10.1038/nclimate1597

This was one of the many examples of bad science misinterpreting the sea level oscillations by cherry picking the time window.

As 6 more years of data have been collected, let see if the hotspots are now the “hottest on record” or if they have cooled down.https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/29/the-sea-levels-are-now-reducing-in-the-hotspots-of-acceleration-of-washington-and-new-york/

The logic of Sallenger & co. was based on the comparison of the rate of rise of sea levels over the first and second half of time windows of 60, 50 and 40 years, i.e. the comparison of the rate of rise over the first and the last 30, 25 and 20 years respectively of these 60, 50 and 40 years windows.

This did not make any sense to me, as if you do have sinusoidal oscillations of periodicity 60 years, positive and negative phases of 30 years, and you select the end of the time widows at the end of one positive phase, this way you will always have “positive acceleration” even if there is none, and everybody knew about periods and phasing of the natural oscillations.

The logic was clearly flawed, but obviously Nature did not accepted any comment. The science is settled, and can’t be discussed.

So, let see the data, for example for Washington DC and The Battery NY, to check if the hotspots have produced huge sea level rises since December 2009.

The figure below presents the MSL (monthly average mean sea levels) and the SLR computed with 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 years’ time windows for Washington DC and The Battery NY.

Is there any one able to spot any sign or acceleration or simply oscillations? With the data up to December 2009 and with the data up to April 2016, not a chance. There are only oscillations about same longer term trend.

Which is then the novelty of the last 6 years of data? Since December 2009, the sea levels have declined in both Washington DC and The Battery NY, -3.3 mm/year in Washington DC and -10.7 mm/year in The Battery NY.

It seems that immediately after December 2009, the last month of data considered by Sallenger & co. in their June 2012 paper, corrected online June 2013 with the publishing in the supplementary of the actual numbers, a positive phase of the oscillations has been replaced by a negative phase.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:41 am    Post subject: s Reply with quote

Golden Dawn posts an artcle from a denier site. Peer reviewed? Of course not. By a scientist? Puleeze--he uses the name of a disturbed Italian mystic as a pseudonym.

Science? Horseshit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those who continue to ignore the evidence of climate change can look back fondly to the Scopes trial to root for America to continue to ignore science. Not just flooding in Texas. In nearly every major newspaper:

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Extreme rainfall, such as that hitting France, has increased worldwide and especially in Europe because of man-made climate change, four different scientists told The Associated Press on Friday. They said downpours like this are one of the clearest signals of global warming.

Record-breaking rainfall in Europe has increased 31 percent from 1980 to 2010, when compared to the previous 80 years, according to a 2015 Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research study.

"These increasing trends have already been measured and are now affecting every storm that forms, including recent storms in France," said Gerald Meehl, a climate scientist at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research,
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could look at the bright side and enjoy the fact that the depleted ground water is being replenished. Somehow groundwater has been depleted and replenished repeatedly for millennia.

As we speak the Sierras and Northern California have plenty of water again. My prediction is that Southern California will be wet next year. I'm still waiting for the poles to defrost so I can grow oranges and windsurf in the arctic circle.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you won't be able to, because the sky will have fallen on your head.

It's 98 degrees in my back yard today ... proof of global warming, no? If so, bring it on. Wife's been weeding her garden for the past 7 hours, so she's on the verge of heatstroke, right? Not exactly; it's comfortable in the shade.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:29 pm    Post subject: e Reply with quote

We could fill books with what bard doesn't undertand about groundwater. Some folks think they should have some knowledge before they comment.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Communists got something right-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/20/chinas-meat-consumption-climate-change
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try telling privileged and entitled developed countries that reduced meat and animal consumption will be forced upon them, and see how they react. After all, we are supposed to be able to decide for ourselves, right? Screw the socioeconomic repercussions of our own personal consumption, and curbing of our own behavior. Let's just keep blaming evil corporations, right? I expect everyone to stop eating meat and consuming animal products immediately.....so who's on board?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/03/eating-less-meat-curb-climate-change
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More evidence to ignore:

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Man-made climate change may have added to the disaster. The part of the USA that includes West Virginia has seen a 71% increase in extreme precipitation since 1958, according to the National Climate Assessment.

The cost of the flooding has yet to be determined, according to FEMA, but "it is a pretty safe bet that overall losses will be in the hundreds of millions once final assessments are completed," said meteorologist Steve Bowen of Aon Benfield, a global reinsurance firm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac must be one of the members of the DNC platform committee.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/27/dem-party-platform-calls-for-prosecuting-global-warming-skeptics/#ixzz4CnHHPuko
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