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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I am not worried about any of your concerns Steve ... I am a normal 6' 48 year old American capitalist ... And I am thrilled at the prospect of a president Clinton . Relax... You live in the nicest place in the country , and you're a waterman...what could possibly be wrong?
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
Personally I am not worried about any of your concerns Steve ... I am a normal 6' 48 year old American capitalist ... And I am thrilled at the prospect of a president Clinton . Relax... You live in the nicest place in the country , and you're a waterman...what could possibly be wrong?


Getting ready to go out today as a matter of fact! Just turned my baseball cap on sideways DUDE!!!
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude--you're supposed to turn on--and then don your baseball cap.
What does a turned on baseball cap do?
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Dude--you're supposed to turn on--and then don your baseball cap.
What does a turned on baseball cap do?


It is a matter of respect to wear your baseball hat properly forward. For those stoners who do not care, or don't play the game, theirs is often worn sideways or backwards. It is a metaphor.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I think conservatives have been vilified enough. I believe that the IRS, EPA, and any number of other federal agencies have been used to intimidate conservative culture."



Oh my God, ideologues like mac vilifying and intimidating "conservative culture"? It's atrocious that poor bastards like the Koch brothers and Grover Norquist are being unfairly victimized just trying express their minds and clear the ridiculous impediments to profit. Nothing should get in the way to profit, right? Unless of course, it's a guy like Al Gore growing rich on goals and strategies to clean up pollution in our environment and promote cleaner alternate sources of energy.
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting for a report on your scofflaw brother. Not holding my breath, or my my baseball cap. So mean of EPA to enforce the law. Not at all foolish of your brother to break it--in some alternative universe where libertarians do whatever they please and insist that everyone else is a fascist.
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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The total absence of any response from the left or right gives a pretty clear indication that all but one poster recognize a thoroughly inappropriate post.
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mac



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John D. Rockefeller built a vast fortune on oil. Now his heirs are abandoning fossil fuels.

The family whose legendary wealth flowed from Standard Oil is planning to announce on Monday that its $860 million philanthropic organization, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, is joining the divestment movement that began a couple years ago on college campuses.

The announcement, timed to precede Tuesday’s opening of the United Nations climate change summit meeting in New York City, is part of a broader and accelerating initiative.


An exploratory well drilled for oil in Monterey, Calif. in April. A number of students have encouraged college and university endowments to divest themselves of their holdings of companies in the fossil fuel business.DealBook: A New Divestment Focus on Campus: Fossil FuelsSEPT. 5, 2013
In recent years, 180 institutions — including philanthropies, religious organizations, pension funds and local governments — as well as hundreds of wealthy individual investors have pledged to sell assets tied to fossil fuel companies from their portfolios and to invest in cleaner alternatives. In all, the groups have pledged to divest assets worth more than $50 billion from portfolios, and the individuals more than $1 billion, according to Arabella Advisors, a firm that consults with philanthropists and investors to use their resources to achieve social goals.

The people who are selling shares of energy stocks are well aware that their actions are unlikely to have an immediate impact on the companies, given their enormous market capitalizations and cash flow.

Even so, some say they are taking action to align their assets with their environmental principles. Others want to shame companies that they believe are recklessly contributing to a warming planet. Still others say that the fight to limit climate change will lead to new regulations and disruptive new technologies that will make these companies an increasingly risky investment.

Ultimately, the activist investors say, their actions, like those of the anti-apartheid divestment fights of the 1980s, could help spur international debate, while the shift of investment funds to energy alternatives could lead to solutions to the carbon puzzle.

“This is a threshold moment,” said Ellen Dorsey, executive director of the Wallace Global Fund, which has coordinated the effort to recruit foundations to the cause. “This movement has gone from a small activist band quickly into the mainstream.”

Not everyone will divest completely or right away, Ms. Dorsey noted, and some are divesting just from specific sectors of the fossil fuel industry, such as coal.

“The key thing is that they are moving along toward a common destination,” she said.


When even your colleagues acknowledge that their way of making money has damaged the atmosphere, it tends to make a defensive Brit even more rude.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lack of any facts makes things so clear to Gybe that anything is possible and has been fully proven by .... the lack of facts.
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest protest...Snowmen.
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