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KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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mac wrote: | Those who were taught, and learned to practice, ignore the screeching about Gore and Kennedy's using tax incentives--as they do the use of the energy industries use of tax incentives--and examine the underlying issue. |
$1.3 million in freebies on your personal home is not a tax incentive. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Bard, it sounds to me that you have it in for small businesses that don't follow your politics. Al Gore is a perfect example of the small business entrepreneur with a mind for the future. I'm surprised that you don't see the picture. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | Bard, it sounds to me that you have it in for small businesses that don't follow your politics. Al Gore is a perfect example of the small business entrepreneur with a mind for the future. I'm surprised that you don't see the picture. |
My idea of a small business is one that creates a product, service, or productivity enhancer, not one that snatches poor and middle income wage earners cash.
PS, net worth of over a quarter billion is hardly a small business! |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: |
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A small business is about the number of employees in it, not the amount of money they make. As a Republican, you should know that. |
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GURGLETROUSERS
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 2643
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:55 am Post subject: |
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The point is being obscured yet again.
Those who preach the looming dangers of global warming because they sincerely BELIEVE it, need to be seen to set an example by their ACTIONS, not just by throwing their surplus money about, which they can clearly afford to do.
Do the Gores and Kennedy clans do that? Do they cycle or walk (as a gesture) instead of continually and grandly driving about in gas guzzling limos? Have they been seen to have adjusted their life-style in any way, as an example to those of us such as myself, societies 'useful idiots'?
I don't see anything of the kind from such 'leaders of society' so I ask the obvious question, Why should I? After all, in the scheme of things, my 'useful idiot' life-style is modest enough, as a member of an advanced western industrial society.
In short, I object to being preached at by the 'do as we say, not as we do' political and ruling classes of society. (And no, I'm not a socialist - their regulatory and controlling vision of life is even worse!) |
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KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:40 am Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | Bard, it sounds to me that you have it in for small businesses that don't follow your politics. Al Gore is a perfect example of the small business entrepreneur with a mind for the future. I'm surprised that you don't see the picture. |
Do you think that Gore would ever pulled his political strings for his financial gain?
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keycocker
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I am surprised Gore would be considered in control of that large a part of the Bush government.He made much of his money in those years.
I would assume he is part of the army of 100s of thousands with gov. connections who benefit in some way.
As Bard says, this is how big business works.
All of big business. Lots of "small" businesses.
Why do you guys object so strongly to one guy doing the same as every single other?
And encouraging us all to make the same investments? |
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KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:14 am Post subject: |
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So are you saying it's OK to pull those string for financial gain?
$1.3 in perks on one's personal property by pulling those strings, that's OK?
Manipulation of others (businesses / grants / tax incentives / legislation.) utilizing political connections and power in those examples, that's how it works or should / could work? |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:26 am Post subject: |
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reinerehlers wrote: | $1.3 million in freebies on your personal home is not a tax incentive. |
Maybe not, but it -- like free or highly subsidized solar power, cell phones, health care insurance, or golf carts -- certainly says, "Vote for me". |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:05 am Post subject: |
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KC, Crony Capitalism, Insider Trading, and No Bid Contracts should generally be frowned upon.....by all party's.
PS, Bush was the worst of all worlds, a social conservative, and a progressive. He was not an Eisenhower conservative by any definition. |
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