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nw30



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, beer. Rolling Eyes
Not surprised.
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Australia's carbon tax is gone: a selection of the cheers, jeers and fears

On Thursday morning the Australian Senate voted to repeal the country’s carbon pricing scheme. Below are some of the initial reactions to the move
Thursday 17 July 2014 01.11 EDT

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/17/australias-carbon-tax-is-gone-a-selection-of-the-cheers-jeers-and-fears

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I see, that means that global warming has stopped. How well thought out and persuasive.

Hum a few bars of "For what it is worth."
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jobs over the environment. Not surprised. Humans are generally very short sighted. Things in the US were great when the Cuyahoga River burst into flames. The prevailing thought was that pollution was the price of prosperity. History repeats itself.

"Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who made a pre-election "pledge in blood" to voters and business to prioritize growth above climate shift, delivered on his promise after independent senators with deciding votes in the upper house sided with his conservatives, following a power shift this month that ended years of domination by the pro-environment Greens party."

http://online.wsj.com/articles/australia-repeals-carbon-tax-1405560964
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitwit30 wrote:
Yeah, beer. Rolling Eyes
Not surprised.
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Australia's carbon tax is gone: a selection of the cheers, jeers and fears

On Thursday morning the Australian Senate voted to repeal the country’s carbon pricing scheme. Below are some of the initial reactions to the move
Thursday 17 July 2014 01.11 EDT

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/17/australias-carbon-tax-is-gone-a-selection-of-the-cheers-jeers-and-fears

This is interesting.

When we provide some quantitative data about guns and gun murders in Australia, you ignore it because Australia and the US are on opposite sides of the Earth. Just because it happened in Australia doesn't mean it could happen here.

But now you have some data (that you like) from Australia and, magically, it's God's own truth.

You really are funny -- maybe even funnier than Mr. Fick-shun.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry not a data story, just new law.

Not surprised that our MSM hid that story from you, it didn't fit the template.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funnier and funnier. the end of Australia's carbon tax was well covered in main stream media. Only a nit wit thinks it means an end to global warming. Oops, did I offend you?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Funnier and funnier. the end of Australia's carbon tax was well covered in main stream media. Only a nit wit thinks it means an end to global warming. Oops, did I offend you?

This is only policy on their findings, and good for them.
You offend me? Shut the front door, and go away, you don't have that kind of influence.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This won't matter to those who own oil company stock, or are deeply paranoid, or scared of science. But for windsurfers, watermen and women who care about the ocean, this should be pretty damned scary:

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NOAA: ‘Nuisance flooding’ an increasing problem as coastal sea levels rise
Study looks at more than 60 years of coastal water level and local elevation data changes
July 28, 2014

Eight of the top 10 U.S. cities that have seen an increase in so-called “nuisance flooding”--which causes such public inconveniences as frequent road closures, overwhelmed storm drains and compromised infrastructure--are on the East Coast, according to a new NOAA technical report.

This nuisance flooding, caused by rising sea levels, has increased on all three U.S. coasts, between 300 and 925 percent since the 1960s.

The report, Sea Level Rise and Nuisance Flood Frequency Changes around the United States, also finds Annapolis and Baltimore, Maryland, lead the list with an increase in number of flood days of more than 920 percent since 1960. Port Isabel, Texas, along the Gulf coast, showed an increase of 547 percent, and nuisance flood days in San Francisco, California increased 364 percent.

"Achieving resilience requires understanding environmental threats and vulnerabilities to combat issues like sea level rise," says Holly Bamford, Ph.D., NOAA assistant administrator of the National Ocean Service. "The nuisance flood study provides the kind of actionable environmental intelligence that can guide coastal resilience efforts."
“As relative sea level increases, it no longer takes a strong storm or a hurricane to cause flooding,” said William Sweet, Ph.D., oceanographer at NOAA’s Center for Operational Oceanographic Products and Services (CO-OPS) and the report’s lead author. “Flooding now occurs with high tides in many locations due to climate-related sea level rise, land subsidence and the loss of natural barriers. The effects of rising sea levels along most of the continental U.S. coastline are only going to become more noticeable and much more severe in the coming decades, probably more so than any other climate-change related factor.”

The study was conducted by scientists at CO-OPS, who looked at data from 45 NOAA water level gauges with long data records around the country and compared that to reports of number of days of nuisance floods.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
This won't matter to those who own oil company stock, or are deeply paranoid, or scared of science. But for windsurfers, watermen and women who care about the ocean, this should be pretty damned scary:


LOL, love the wording you created there.
So if you "own oil co. stock, or are deeply paranoid , or scared of science", there is no way that you could be a windsurfer, or an ocean related whatever.
Cool. That's very scientific.
UCB? Thought so.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are those who own oil company stocks as a conscious decision to participate in a well run and vital industry...........and then there are those who sniff at oil company investors while drawing fat pension benefits from CALPERS which owns more than $2billion in Exxon and Chevron stock alone.
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